Ruth,

    What I really did not appreciate from CA was their push to "integrate" all
of these products with their "intelligent Nugents" and the "Jasmine
infrastructure".  This is "suppose" to give you an integrated environment where
the DBA's job will be "highly automated".  But the price tag could gag a herd of
elephants!  The estimate from the sales person for us was around $10M with a
$1.5M per year maintenance agreement.

    Also, I'm somewhat sure that CA has set up their Nugents correctly for their
own RDBMS, but a colleague (no name please, there's enough egg on her face to
last a lifetime+) up the road called a month ago.  The last SQL statement in her
Development DB's alert log (by the way this instance was being "watched" by a
fully functional Nugent) said "DROP TABLESPACE SYSTEM INCLUDING CONTENTS;",
after that were all ORA- something errors.  Therefore I'm not too sure about
CA's intelligence.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Ruth Gramolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       2/26/2001 8:15 AM

I am using Platinum DesktopDBA.  I got an upgrade with no problem and the
sales team even came over here to visit and make sure I was satisfied.

Ruth B. Gramolini
ORACLE & DB2  DBA
VT Dept. of Taxes
ph# 802.828.5708
fax# 802.828..3754
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> Ron,
>
>     Common on now, this is suppose to be at least a polite list.  There
was no
> call for the use of foul language.  OH, sorry you don't work over here, CA
is a
> four letter work here used only in EXTREME circumstances like when the
fire dept
> accidentally sets off the fire suppression system in the computer room on
a
> Friday late afternoon.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
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> Date:       2/23/2001 1:00 PM
>
> I have been trying to get upgrades from Computer Associates for about two
> months.  Does anyone use any of Computer Associates products?  What has
been
> your experience?
>
> Ron Smith
> Database Administration
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