Hmmmm...I don't know how pounding a single drive with two threads instead of
one would help, but it could be tried.  I would think that the LGWR would be
the big complainer in a 1-disk config, instead of the DBWR.  Or at least I
think LGWR would complain more often...

My post was simply to point out that the error message in TOAD about "Number
of DB_FILES set too high" was inaccurate.  And as the "Tuning" stuff in TOAD
has been redone, at least in the latest TOAD v7 Beta, this error message
won't be a hassle too much longer.

Long live Toadman Jim!  :)

Rich Jesse                          System/Database Administrator
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 14:09
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: DBWR slaves in NT???
> 
> 
> If I am completely off the wall here just slap me around a 
> little bit.  But
> couldn't you play with the init parameteres DBWR_IO_SLAVES or
> DB_WRITER_PROCESSES to help improve write performance?  I 
> mean, I agree with
> Ross, there is only one disk, but maybe it could help a little to help
> simulate asynchronous I/O?
> Kev
> Just thinkin out loud again!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:31 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Actually, that message is invalid for Oracle8 DBs.  From what 
> I can gather,
> the DB_FILES init.ora parameter only
> potentially affected DBWR performance in Oracle7.  In 
> Oracle8, it ain't
> true.
> 
> Remember, the DBWRs write dirty buffers (data in memory that has been
> modified from it's counterpart in a datafile) from the buffer 
> cache (memory)
> to the datafiles (disk).  In O7, the DBWR I/O clump size, or 
> how many dirty
> blocks could be written at once (also sometimes referred to 
> as the DBWR's
> "internal write batch size"), was calculated as:
> 
>       DB_FILE_SIMULTANEOUS_WRITES*DB_FILES/2.
> 
> In O8, the DBWR I/O clump size is static, and is different 
> from platform to
> platform.  Thus, for Oracle8, the advise to change DB_FILES is bogus.
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Rich Jesse                          System/Database Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]             Quad/Tech International, 
> Sussex, WI USA
> 
> Disclaimer:  After taking the Oracle8 Perf Tuning class, I 
> think I know more
> than I do.  Don't blame me for your (in)actions based on my opinion!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:27
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> not a dbwriter problem.
> on a "single-disk wonder", your best
> bet is to DUMP all indexes on loadable
> tables, then load your data, then rebuild
> the indexes.
> of course, that might take just as long.
> any possiblity of getting more disk?
> like, several? a raid controller?
> mit gluck!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi Friends
> I have toad tool for my NT database
> DBWR Average Scan Depth 1024  **Number of DB_Files too high??
> I got doubt due to from v$waitstat I got data block waits 
> some time 8000 and
> 
> some times higher number. How can I increase the DBWR slaves on NT??
> although I set in development box, How can I see as background process
> really working for me??
> I have my datafile and indexes same on E disk drive, My hit 
> ratios are okay,
> 
> My import is killing me.
> Any help appreciated.
> Thanks
> Raghu.
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