Title: RE: (Fwd) RE: (Fwd/Oracle) Does NT write to random locations on di

 IMHO, the disk toolsuite that is unbeatable is by O&O Defrag.

something like oodefrag.com....

i have been using this to great effect for years.

and

they have some truly and really neat optimization utilities....

NT users will like this site.....


hth!


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric D. Pierce
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: 3/9/2001 4:35 PM
Subject: (Fwd) RE: (Fwd/Oracle) Does NT write to random locations on di

Apparently the preferred defragger is Norton Utilities:

http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/content/productlink.cfm

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(Symantec Speed Disk 5.1 for Windows NT Info ):

http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=8
&PID=3133528

(warning: above URL may wrap)

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I'm pretty sure ABs preferrence is for SpeedDisk and if so, I'd have to
agree. :)

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Mike,

Yes, I remember seeing discussion of the need for defragging
NT/Win2k servers (and AB's preference for Diskkeeper?).

   http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/diskeeper.asp

I'm guessing the Oracle DBAs are still curious about the
underlying I/O architectural issues involved.

regards,
ep

(cc: via separate fwd to Oracle-L)

On 9 Mar 2001, at 12:00, Mike Soultanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Date sent:              Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:00:50 -0800
To:                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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locations on disk?

> I don't know the answer to your question, but if you didn't already
> know, there is diskeeper for NT.  Plus, they have a frag guard thing
> that will defrag on the fly, or something like that.  I haven't tried
> it, I just get their newsletter all the time :)
>
> Later,
> mike
>
> "Eric D. Pierce" wrote:
> >
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> > Date sent:              Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:00:31 -0800
> > To:                     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From:                   "Boivin, Patrice J"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject:                Does NT write to random locations on disk?
> >
> > Using a little utility called contig I noticed that the Oracle 8.1.6
> > datafiles on my test NT server are quite fragmented, an average of
177
> > fragments per file, 118 fragments for the OEM repository datafile.
The
poor
> > utility couldn't do anything with the database files, they are too
large
> > perhaps.
> >
> > These were created on an empty server, 8i release 2 went on it after
a
> > defrag, then the OEM.  This is on a hard disk with 1.2G of free
space,
none
> > of the datafiles come close to that.
> >
> > Why so many fragments?  Oracle created those files in one pass, does
NT
> > write randomly to disk or what?
> >
> > Won't this have an impact on my NT database's performance?
> >
> > Oracle says tablespace fragmentation is not a big deal, but
fragmentation at
> > the OS level matters.   Supposedly that's why NT and WndowsXX came
with
> > defragmentation tools.
> >
> > ???
> >
> > Is there a registry setting somewhere to tell NT to write
contiguously
to
> > disk?

...

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