That's right, Oracle seems to pull in all blocks needed to satisfy the query
you send, which makes sense.. So if you do a select * from your_table; it
should pull everything in to the buffer. One thing that you do have to
consider, is that there is enough space in your KEEP buffer pool to store
all of these tables..

Back to the root of your message though Kevin, could you not just write a
script, that does a select * from your_tables, and execute this at start-up?

How large are these tables also, AFAIK the KEEP buffer pool should really be
used for smaller, lookup or code tables..

HTH

Mark


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Kostyszyn
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If you fts the tables, won't Oracle just place them into the Keep pool
because it will think that it needs them?
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> Alex,
>
> Further testing has proved that only the blocks needed to satisfy the
query
> are loaded, and not the entire table.
>
> I can post the details if you wish, but there's your answer:)
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Alex
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 06:27
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Looks like oracle reads into keep buffer pool only blocks that it needed
but
> then keep it there. Would be intersting to know if let say table has more
> then 1 block and access is using indexes - so oracle needs to read only 1
> block - will be all table loaded into keep buffer pool or only block
needed
> to satisfy query.
>
> Alex Hillman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Leith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:54 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: tirggers
>
> I thought that as well Tim, but wasn't sure whether Oracle loads the
> table
> at startup even if this is specified in the storage clause. The
> following
> test seems to show that it doesn't though:
>
> SQL> create table DUMMY_TABLE (id number(3), dummy varchar2(5))
>   2     storage(BUFFER_POOL KEEP);
>
> Table created.
>
> SQL> select DATA_OBJECT_ID, OBJECT_TYPE
>   2    from USER_OBJECTS
>   3  where OBJECT_NAME = 'DUMMY_TABLE';
>
> DATA_OBJECT_ID OBJECT_TYPE
> -------------- ------------------
>          26408 TABLE
>
> SQL> select count(*) buffers
>   2    from V$BH
>   3  where OBJD = 26408;
>
>    BUFFERS
> ----------
>          1
>
> SQL> connect internal/password
> Connected.
> SQL> shutdown immediate;
> Database closed.
> Database dismounted.
> ORACLE instance shut down.
> SQL> startup
> ORACLE instance started.
>
> Total System Global Area   73701404 bytes
> Fixed Size                    75804 bytes
> Variable Size              56770560 bytes
> Database Buffers           16777216 bytes
> Redo Buffers                  77824 bytes
> Database mounted.
> Database opened.
> SQL> connect mark/password
>
> SQL> select count(*) buffers
>   2    from V$BH
>   3  where OBJD = 26408;
>
>    BUFFERS
> ----------
>          0
>
> SQL> select * from DUMMY_TABLE;
>
> no rows selected
>
> SQL> select count(*) buffers
>   2    from V$BH
>   3  where OBJD = 26408;
>
>    BUFFERS
> ----------
>          1
>
> Not sure on the trigger though, PL/SQL is not one of my strong
> points :)
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sawmiller
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 02:07
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Why not just specify BUFFER POOL KEEP in an alter table statement?
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/01 05:56PM >>>
> What is the problem to write something like
> Select * from <table_name> for all tables that you need or if there
> are too
> many such tables - create a new table with names of the tables and
> use
> dynamic SQL .
>
> Alex Hillman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:28 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: tirggers
>
> Hi Intelligent DBA's
> I was wondering if anyone knows how to create a
> trigger that
> would fire off
> at database startup time and run a script to do full table
> scans on
> several
> tables to get them into the buffer cache keep pool?  Right
> now I do
> it
> manually and would like to automate the task.
>
> Sincerely,
> Kevin Kostyszyn
> DBA
> Dulcian, Inc
> www.dulcian.com
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