Kev,

PUBLIC and PRIVATE Rollback segments are not specified for ALL or SPECIFIC
USER use.  You can specify a certain transaction to use a specific rollback
segment, as stated in the post below.  PUBLIC and PRIVATE Rollback Segments
have to do with the instances that utilize them.  For example, in a
distributed environment or on a Parallel Server environment, PUBLIC RBSs can
be used by either INSTANCE, as opposed to the RBSs created by just one
instance in the cluster.

Don't worry, Dulcian doesn't use databases that large ;-)

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless (and former Dulcian employee)

ALSO...I just read Anita's Post, and she is also correct...I just added the
other angle.  Here is some verbiage from the docs:

Public and Private Rollback Segments 
Public and private rollback segments do not have performance differences.
However, private rollback segments provide more control over the matching of
instances with rollback segments. This allows you to locate the rollback
segments for different instances on different disks to improve performance.
Therefore, use private rollback segments to reduce disk contention in
high-performance systems. 

Public rollback segments form a pool of rollback segments that can be
acquired by any instance needing an additional rollback segment. Using
public rollback segments can be disadvantageous, however, when instances are
shut down and started up at the same time. For example, instance X shuts
down and releases public rollback segments. Instance Y starts up and
acquires the released rollback segments. Finally, instance X starts up and
cannot acquire its original rollback segments. Acquiring a public rollback
segment can also be made at startup if TRANSACTIONS and
TRANSACTIONS_PER_ROLLBACK_SEGMENTS are not properly set. 

You can use public rollback segments to improve space utilization. If you
create only one large public rollback segment for long-running transactions
that run on different instances each month, the rollback segment can be
taken offline and brought back online or "moved" from one instance to
another to better serve instances with the heavier workloads. 

By default a rollback segment is private and is used by the instance
specifying it in the parameter file. Specify private rollback segments using
the parameter ROLLBACK_SEGMENTS. 

Once a public rollback segment is acquired by an instance, it is then used
exclusively by that instance. 

Once created, both public and private rollback segments can be brought
online using the ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT command. 


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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:21 AM
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Hi all,
        This brings me to a stupid question then.  What is the true
difference
between a public and a private rollback segment?  Because if I just think
about it like a normal human being I would think that if a user made a
Private rollback segment then only that user could use it, but of course I
know that can't be the case.
Kev

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:26 AM
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Nixon,

While SET TRANSACTION can be used to assign a rollback
segment to a transaction, it cannot be assigned exclusively to
that transaction as you have found.

The ability to assign a rollback segment to a transaction and
make it read-only for all others is something I've wanted myself
for many years, and I know it's been on the official 'wish list' of
requested changes by IOUG for some time.

Maybe 9i?  Anyone know?

Jared


On Wednesday 09 May 2001 01:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here is my environment;
>
> NT v4
> Db Oracle Workgroup v8.1.6
>
> Rollback Segments
> SEGMENT_NAME                   OWNER  TABLESPACE_NAME
> ------------------------------     ------ ------------------------------
> SYSTEM                         SYS    SYSTEM
> RBS0                            PUBLIC RBS
> RBS_P1                          SYS    RBS
> RBS_P2                          SYS    RBS
> RBS_P3                          SYS    RBS
> RBS_P4                          SYS    RBS
> RBS_P5                          SYS    RBS
>
>
> Is it possible to assign one public rollback segment explicitly to one
> particular transaction? I tried using SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT
> but other users I found out can still use it. So, I guess the best
> alternative is to set that RB segment to OFFLINE after using and set
ONLINE
> before executing the SET TRANSACTION ... Do you know how it can be done
> inside Forms?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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