My first rule for commit "placement" is the respect of
the transaction (hey what do you expect from someone
who likes to normalize before denormalizing ;-) ) then
I looked to improve in terms of performance,
modularity,...  so if a transaction is done inside a
loop so be it. 


--- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit�: > 
> I'll have to disagree with not using commit within a
> loop.
> 
> If you identify what a transaction is within your
> code, and 
> write it accordingly, using commit where
> appropriate, you
> will not get ORA-1002 or ORA-1555, at least not due 
> to your own code.
> 
> I've written a number of routines to do just that,
> and helped
> developers straighten out their procedures so that
> they
> would quit getting ORA-1555.
> 
> Putting commit outside of the loop is simply not
> practical
> for a procedure that is modifying a large amount of
> data,
> and/or takes a long time to do it.
> 
> The code below that I originally commented on will
> not
> cause ORA-1555.
> 
> 
> begin
>       loop
> 
>            update reg.docalert_responses@ncp
>               set campaign_response_handled = 1
>            where campaign_response_handled != 1
>               and rownum <= 100
>               and docalert_response_id in (
>                    select docalert_response_id
>                    from docalert_emails_050401@ncc
>                    where sent = 1
>                );
> 
>            commit;
> 
>            exit when sql%notfound;
>       end loop;
> end;
> /
> 
> 
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 09 May 2001 07:56, paquette stephane
> wrote:
> > Jared,
> >
> > They are many causes for the famous "ORA-1555
> Snapshot
> > too old", one of them is fetch across commit. It
> is
> > when you're commiting and fetching the same data.
> it
> > is not accept in ANSI SQl but it is by Oracle.
> >
> > In numerous place, developpers have complained
> that I
> > sized the rbs too small because of the ORA-1555.
> > Suddenly my rbs were ok after moving the commit
> > outside the loop .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit�: >
> >
> > > Stephane,
> > >
> > > This doesn't look like it will cause ORA-1002,
> at
> > > least
> > > I don't see it.
> > >
> > > What's the relationship between ORA-1002 and
> > > ORA-1555?
> > >
> > > I got up rather early with a headache this
> morning,
> > > so maybe I'm
> > > just not thinking clearly yet.  :)
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 09 May 2001 05:40, paquette
> stephane
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > My observation is not on the elegancy of the
> code
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > > > why commit at 100 rows ?  Are you updating 10
> 000
> > >
> > > 000
> > >
> > > > rows ?
> > > > I've seen a lot of ORA-1555 because of fetch
> > >
> > > across
> > >
> > > > commit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit�: >
> > > >
> > > > > Linda,
> > > > >
> > > > > Might I suggest avoiding the "elegant"
> looping
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > try some "inelegant"
> > > > > looping?  It should be faster, although I
> can't
> > >
> > > make
> > >
> > > > > any promises.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warning, untested, and you can probably do
> > >
> > > better
> > >
> > > > > than an in() -- but it
> > > > > should give you the gist...
> > > > >
> > > > > begin
> > > > >      loop
> > > > >           update reg.docalert_responses@ncp
> > > > >           set campaign_response_handled = 1
> > > > >           where campaign_response_handled !=
> 1
> > > > >           and rownum <= 100
> > > > >           and docalert_response_id in
> (select
> > > > > docalert_response_id
> > > > >                from
> docalert_emails_050401@ncc
> > > > >                where sent = 1);
> > > > >           commit;
> > > > >           exit when sql%notfound;
> > > > >      end loop;
> > > > > end;
> > > > > /
> > > > >
> > > > > Diana Duncan
> > > > > TITAN Technology Partners
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> 
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St�phane Paquette
DBA Oracle, consultant entrep�t de donn�es
Oracle DBA, datawarehouse consultant
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