It's actually a pretty cool interview....a lot there.... || -----Original Message----- || From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:19 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: (Fwd) Wilber/Shambala interview || ("transideological" social || trends) || || || antidisestablishmentarianism - I know big words too!! :) || || http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mantidis.html || || Really Eric - where do you get all the time from to collate this || extraordinarily extensive yet thoroughly interesting psycho || babble? :) || || Mark (Eric wannabe) || || -----Original Message----- || Pierce || Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 07:51 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || trends) || || || || (repost for list newcomers) || || ------- Forwarded message follows ------- || || http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/interviews/Shambhala_intervi || ew.cfm/xid,2676 || /yid,5800264 || - || http://www.scottlondon.com/ || - || http://www.rkey.com/thetazone/ || - || http://www.rkey.com/thetazone/#constructivism || || ----- || excerpt: || || ... || Among its many insights, constructivism adds perspective to the || unfortunate historical propensity of humans to objectify the || mind as an entity subject to environmental factors. || Constructivism is best known as a critique of international || relations theories which assert that rational behaviors of || nation-states must necessarily conform to the exigencies of an || anarchic world system. The framework can be extended to reveal || similar patterns in superstitious eschatologies, statements like || "The devil made me do it," and a wide range of modern || materialist and historicist philosophies, notably extremist || forms of Marxism and Social Darwinism. || || The propensity to "blame" environmental factors as an excuse for || human behavior has become increasingly sophisticated in recent || years, leading to a philosophy of mind that proclaims || computerized telecommunication as destiny. Not only are such || concepts being promoted with fanatical energy, they are being || used to justify social transformations that are increasingly || rapid and disruptive. The rising interest in "memes," which || holds that ideas acquire people (rather than people acquiring || ideas) is an important part of this distressing trend. || || ... || || (by the same guy, an explortion of the struggle between progressive || proponents of a model of internet governance based on participatory || democracy vs commerical interests : || || http://www.rkey.com/dns/overview.html ) || || ----- || || http://www.context.org || - || http://216.122.74.136//ICLIB/IC03/TOC03.htm || - || http://216.122.74.136//ICLIB/IC03/CoriGord.htm || || - || http://www.wholeearthmag.com/ArticleBin/FeaturesIssue.html || - || http://www.wholeearthmag.com/ArticleBin/373.html || - || || Sustainable culture: || || http://www.resilientcommunities.org || || ----- || excerpt: || || What's Behind Resilient Communities? || || Something's afoot in the United States, and || Canada, and Australia, and Europe, and Asia and || Africa -- all over the world. Increasing numbers of || people are saying they want a different life than || that being offered by industrial-era society. Paul || Ray, in his 1997 Integral Culture Survey: A Study || of the Emergence of Transformational Values in || America says that as much as 25% of || populations in industrial countries are looking for || a better way of life. || || Why? || || Forces are coming together to shift dynamics in || very dramatic ways. There is a growing split || between the rich and the poor not only within || countries both developed and undeveloped but || also, of course, between them. There is a huge || increase in population over the last century, which || when coupled with production increases, has led || to shortages of land, water and clean air. There || is growing evidence that global warming and || climatic instability, evidenced this year by the || number of severe fire and flood problems around || the world, threaten current human habitation || patterns in significant ways. New forms of || nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry are || threatening humanity and both nation state || rivalries and terrorism create continuing anxieties || || There is an economic crisis as our reliance on || economic growth and affluence collides with || changing personal commitment and ecological || realities. There is a social crisis as growing || poverty and growing wealth co-exist on the same || planet. There is a moral crisis as our ability to || feel outrage about the state of the world is buried || by our busyness and statements from economists || and politicians that "we have no choice." There is || an ecological crisis as fish stocks are || overconsumed, fires burn out of control, forests || diminish, land erodes. And there is, above all, a || spiritual crisis as we lose sight of our real goals || and substitute instant gratification in place of a || search for true meaning. || || At the same time, the seeds for change are || growing. More and more people are beginning to || examine the ways in which they are living their || lives. Those of us doing so are saying that we || want less stress and more time. We're saying we || want to have a positive impact on the global || environment rather than a destructive one. Many || are being drawn to a new emphasis on building || healthy relationships and towards exploration of || spirituality. || || We are looking for a new way to live -- a more || resilient way of life. || || (continued) || ... || || ----- || http://www.nrf.org/ - http://www.nrf.org/cpguide/index.html ------------------------------------------ http://www.rmi.org ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. 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