In my experience MTS was (I've stopped using it) 4 - 6 TIMES
slower than using a dedicated connection. This was consistently
measured during our "nightwork batch processing" over multiple
nights over multiple weeks. Using MTS, one stream was taking
4 - 6 hours to complete. Whenever we ran it via a dedicated
connection the run times shrunk to right around 1 HOUR!

At the time I had 32 servers and only 1 - 4 single threaded
job streams running against the instance.

FWIW - Solaris V2.6 & Oracle V7.3.4.5

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> 
> James,
> 
>     In general I notice that MTS can slow things down IF there are not enough
> shared servers running so that at least one server is constantly idle.
> 
> Dick Goulet
> 
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> Author: "James Xing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:       5/24/2001 9:36 AM
> 
> RE: MaximoThanks Chris,
> Did you turn on MTS on your production server? Is that recommended?
> In our environment, the system was fine on dev server which is not using
> MTS, another DBA who is in charge of production server turned MTS on and
> found the performance is 4 times slower.
> 
> James
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bowes, Chris
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:28 AM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>   Subject: RE: Maximo
> 
>   ON all the maximo installations I have done, the biggest problems have
> been with maxencrypt a table that holds the encrypted key that allows
> everyone in the base.  There is a script that will reset this if the users
> cannot get into the system.   Make sure that the character set in the client
> is set to the same as the base.  If users cannot get into the base due to
> bad password and you *know* the user/password are correct, then something
> happened to the maxencrypt and/or the character sets are not the same.  I am
> hoping that 4i eliminates that table, but since I haven't seen it, I don't
> know if it does.
> 
>   I don't know about the current version, but when I worked with it about a
> year ago, the indexes were terrible.  We dropped and created a number of
> indexes to improve things.  We used cost base optimization (oracle v7 at the
> time) and and a job that analyzed every couple weeks on the big tables and
> every month on the others.
> 
>   If you have to do an import of the base, you will need to run the
> maxora??.sql script that creates a couple views under sys.  I am sorry that
> I cannot remember the script at this moment.   I'll check with some of my
> old comrades and see if they can remember it.
> 
>   If you're moving to production, you probably have all the columns defined
> and sized.  If not, sometimes the column changes do not get registered in
> the maxsyscols table and you'll need to update it.
> 
>   Otherwise, the system really does quite well once it is running.  If I can
> think of anything else I'll re-reply.
> 
>   --Chris
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: James Xing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:15 PM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>   Subject: Maximo
> 
>   Hi Group,
> 
>   I have a Maximo system moving into production, using Oracle 816/Sun
> solaris
>   If anyone has experience, from DBA point of view, what I should be care
> of?
>   anything to change/check? any particular table?
> 
>   Thanks
>   James
> 
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> <DIV><SPAN class=004183216-24052001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
> 
> Chris, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=004183216-24052001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Did
> you turn on MTS on your production server?&nbsp;Is that
> recommended?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=004183216-24052001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In our
> 
> environment,&nbsp;the system was fine on dev server which is not using
> MTS,&nbsp;another DBA who is in charge of production server turned&nbsp;MTS on
> and found the performance is 4 times slower.&nbsp;</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=004183216-24052001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=004183216-24052001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>James</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
>   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bowes, Chris<BR><B>Sent:</B>
>   Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:28 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list
>   ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Maximo<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>   <P><FONT size=2>ON all the maximo installations I have done, the biggest
>   problems have been with maxencrypt a table that holds the encrypted key that
>   allows everyone in the base.&nbsp; There is a script that will reset this if
>   the users cannot get into the system.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure that the character
> 
>   set in the client is set to the same as the base.&nbsp; If users cannot get
>   into the base due to bad password and you *know* the user/password are
>   correct, then something happened to the maxencrypt and/or the character sets
>   are not the same.&nbsp; I am hoping that 4i eliminates that table, but since I
> 
>   haven't seen it, I don't know if it does.</FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>I don't know about the current version, but when I worked with
> 
>   it about a year ago, the indexes were terrible.&nbsp; We dropped and created a
> 
>   number of indexes to improve things.&nbsp; We used cost base optimization
>   (oracle v7 at the time) and and a job that analyzed every couple weeks on the
>   big tables and every month on the others.</FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>If you have to do an import of the base, you will need to run
>   the maxora??.sql script that creates a couple views under sys.&nbsp; I am
>   sorry that I cannot remember the script at this moment.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll check
> 
>   with some of my old comrades and see if they can remember it.&nbsp;
> </FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>If you're moving to production, you probably have all the
>   columns defined and sized.&nbsp; If not, sometimes the column changes do not
>   get registered in the maxsyscols table and you'll need to update
> it.</FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>Otherwise, the system really does quite well once it is
>   running.&nbsp; If I can think of anything else I'll re-reply.</FONT> </P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>--Chris</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
>   </P><BR>
>   <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: James
> 
>   Xing [<A
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>   size=2>Subject: Maximo</FONT> </P><BR>
>   <P><FONT size=2>Hi Group,</FONT> </P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>I have a Maximo system moving into production, using Oracle
>   816/Sun solaris</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>If anyone has experience, from DBA
>   point of view, what I should be care of?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>anything to
>   change/check? any particular table?</FONT> </P>
>   <P><FONT size=2>Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>James</FONT> </P>
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