Thanks for letting me know of this .   I am afraid I have not had a chance
to investigate the man or his book ..... but it looks like I am going to
have to.

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Sent: 6/1/01 8:00 PM

Wow...  that's good to know.. Gaja's a really nice guy, and I will tell
him you liked his talk.  

If anyone wants to learn more about his ideas.. There are a couple of
white papers on the Quest website...  

http://www.quest.com/shareplex/ <http://www.quest.com/shareplex/>  

On the left hand side, click on the 'white papers' link.  There are a
couple by Gaja, and Steven Feuerstein (PL/SQL guru), Eyal Aronoff, and
even Kevin Loney.  

Some even talk about maintaining and working in a 'large' environment. 

pretty interesting reading... 

Nick Wagner 


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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:06 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


I just got back from a little seminar from Quest with Gaja Krishna 
Vaidyanatha and if he was dead (he's not that I'm aware of) he would be 
rolling in his grave about your comments on hit rates and SGA sizes.
His 
new book 101 Oracle Performance Tuning will stress that you abandon
those 
hit rates and focus on V$SYSTEM_EVENT, V$SESSION_EVENT and
V$SESSION_WAIT in 
combination with CPU and IO stats.  He states that Oracle is rather well

designed for physical IO.  His presentation was great and I'm definatley

going to buy his book because I can learn something from this guy.  So
maybe 
those small SGA's aren't so bad after all :) 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072131454/o/qid=991436418/sr=2-1
/ref
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072131454/o/qid=991436418/sr=2-
1/ref>  
=aps_sr_b_1_1/002-4814740-2092864 

- Ethan Post 

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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:35 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


As most everyone has said so far ....  Its all subjective.  What is
large to 
me .... is a dinky little thing to someone else. 

Right now at my current job we have around 37 instances on 4 mchines
with 2 
GB or less of memory and 2 - 4 processors each.  These DBs range from a
10 
MB to a 70 MB SGA (yes, sounded real small to me when I got here also). 
These databases are all in the realm of 60 - 100 GB of data each. 

My last job we had 2 machines running 4  instances.  These DBs had SGAs
from 
350 MB to 980 MB in size with 4 CPUs using 4 GB of memory.   As far as
size 
goes, we had upwards of a Terrabyte of data. 


To me, I have found that I have to treat both setups the same.  They
really 
do have the same problems (space, hit rates, drive failures, hardware 
failures, etc.)  You just have to pay closer attention to certain
aspects of 
them differently.  With the small SGAs we have to look real close at hit

rates and all the Memory Dependent aspects of the DB.  With the large
amount 
of data on the other DB we had to look more closely at Data and file
related 
problems. 

All I am trying to say is .........  its all subjective. 

Kevin 

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