Well, that certainly matches my recent experience.
I know of more than one very large customer having
trouble with Sun and another large academic site
who swapped 80-odd sun servers for AIX.
Makes NT look more and more like the "dot in dot com"
everyday. <EG>
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According to a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY, Oracle
no longer develops on Solaris. He stated that they have changed to HP-UX
for development. He said the reason was instability with Solaris.
"Koivu, Lisa" wrote:
Kevin, sure I will. I just didn't want to muck up the list.
Here's what I found. If anyone has any comments to add, please do.
My question was about the utilities across different flavors of Unix and if
they mean the same thing. vmstat, iostat are the same, however the switches
may be a bit different. sar is system V only. truss you must purchase a
license for. top is freeware. There is a utility called 'collect' that
does something similar to top.
The response regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive. Some of the
positive comments I received:
1. C compiler (Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant and may affect
any 3rd party apps.
2. Compaq hardware used to be lagging in Oracle (Apps) patch releases. Not
anymore.
3. The journaling filesystem makes mistakes like unplugging the wrong cord
(oops!) a simple fix instead of hours of downtime.
4. Security - Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed everywhere
extremely popular, intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not widely
known. So obscurity works in your favor.
5. Clustering technology is mature, solid and proven.
6. tru64 is indeed a first tier platform for Oracle.
7. Compaq's support is rated as 'very helpful'.
8. tru64 has the ability to quickly clone a filesystem.
9. OPS can reside on a filesystem on tru64.
10. Benchmarking Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored the
Compaq! WOW
11. For 9i, Oracle licensed also the TruCluster technology from Compaq.
Oracle RAC (Real Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will only
initially be available on tru64, truly first tier.
Caveats/ Other comments:
1. Sun, relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting
themselves in the long run.
2. Sun is ex-pen-sive! Compaq wins in this comparison.
3. The future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit shaky right now, but they
should pull through in the long run.
4. There's a bug in tru64 that doesn't allow one listener to service
databases with different versions. Workaround is multiple listeners (no big
deal)
5. Oracle does develop on Sun hardware. Calling OWWS for a Solaris system
may net an answer quicker than running tru64.
6. Avoid the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun. They have a problem with bad
caches causing random reboots. I saw this at a previous employer.
7. If it's possible, consider IBM/AIX. IBM's sales force is highly trained
in administration so you can talk real system architecture with them (not
that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither). IBM's support is also top
notch.
Special thanks to the following people for their responses:
Scott Shafer
Ron Morton
Lee Robertson
Jerry Hess
Michael Hand
Murali Vallath
Joe Hatchel
Mike Kurt
Ray Stell
Darren Browett
Stephen Andert
Stefan Moeding
And, the one and only clown.... Ross Mohan
Like I said, I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:02 PM
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Lisa:
How about contributing a summary of the feedback?
Kevin
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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:37 AM
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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when
I asked
for info on tru64 Unix. I received much more info and feedback than I ever
expected!
This list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how
willing
people are to answer questions. I just hope I contribute enough to make up
for how much everyone here has helped me.
HELP!
Have a great day, all.
Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Administrator
954-935-4117
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