Okay Lisa,
WHY were you on painkillers?
Rachel
>From: "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: RE: Data load options
>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:47:06 -0800
>
>Oh yes. You are right. It loads full blocks above the HWM. Forgot to
>mention that... thanks for pointing out that VERY important bit of info.
>Must be the narcotics.
>
>Lisa
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:03 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re:RE: Data load options
> >
> > Lisa,
> >
> > SQL*Loader in direct path can cause you storage problems since it
> > always
> > appends to the table(s) ignoring blocks on the free block list. I found
> > that
> > out after a developer was using it for our data warehouse. At the end
>of
> > a year
> > he had burned almost 100GB of disk & it kept increasing even though he
>was
> > trying to keep only a rolling 180 window. On a hunch we exported the
> > data,
> > truncated the table & imported the data back in. The amount of
>tablespace
> > being
> > used dropped 50%.
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> >
> > ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> > Author: "Koivu; Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 7/25/2001 6:26 AM
> >
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > Others have given you different options. Here's some considerations:
> >
> > 1. SQL Script.
> > * Can be SLOW
> > * May require intermittent commits in your script
> > * Manual and error prone
> > * Must go through SQL engine
> >
> > 2. SQL Loader
> > * Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine).
> > * Direct path load will invalidate indexes.
> > * You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file)
> > * Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors.
> >
> > 3. Import
> > * Requires minimal manual fiddling
> > * Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days
> > * Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain)
> > indexes is one example)
> > * Restarting an import will take a lot longer. If your import
> > fails,
> > be sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again.
> > * Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N)
> > * Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with
> > data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export
> > with
> > data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y)
> >
> > I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share. My choice
> > has
> > always been exp/imp.
> >
> > Lisa Koivu
> > The Vicodin-enhanced DBA
> > Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: O'Neill, Sean [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:16 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Data load options
> > >
> > > I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an
>Oracle
> > > database on NT platform. What I've come up with so far is:
> > > [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
> > > [2] SQL Loader utility
> > > [3] Import utility
> > >
> > > Are there others?
> > > Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
> > > methods?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sean :)
> > >
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> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Hi Sean, </FONT>
> > </P>
> >
> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Others have given you
> > different
> > options. Here's some considerations:</FONT>
> > </P>
> >
> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">1. SQL Script.
></FONT>
> >
> > <UL><LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Can be SLOW
></FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">May require intermittent
> > commits
> > in your script</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Manual and error
> > prone</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Must go through SQL
> > engine</FONT></LI>
> > <BR>
> > </UL>
> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">2. SQL Loader</FONT>
> >
> > <UL><LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Can be very fast
>(direct
> > -
> > bypassing SQL engine). </FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Direct path load will
> > invalidate
> > indexes. </FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">You can keep track of
> > rejected
> > records easily (.bad file)</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Dependent upon your file
> > format
> > being EXACT, no errors.</FONT></LI>
> > <BR>
> > </UL>
> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">3. Import</FONT>
> >
> > <UL><LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Requires minimal
>manual
> > fiddling</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Can be very slow - I once
> > imported
> > 150GB and it took ~3 days</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Does not seamlessly handle
> > all
> > object types (INtermedia (domain) indexes is one example)</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Restarting an import will
> > take a
> > lot longer. If your import fails, be sure and truncate/drop all
> > tables
> > before starting again. </FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Have the option of not
> > including
> > indexes (INDEXES=N)</FONT></LI>
> > <LI><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Can also reset your
>storage
> > parms
> > prior to import (export with data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new
> > storage
> > parms / import, export with data=y, import data with
>IGNORE=Y)</FONT></LI>
> > <BR>
> > </UL>
> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I'm sure others will have
> > additional considerations to share. My choice has always been
> > exp/imp.
> > </FONT>
> > </P>
> >
> > <P><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Lisa Koivu</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The Vicodin-enhanced
> > DBA</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
> > </FONT>
> > </P>
> > <UL>
> > <P><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
> > <BR><B><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">From: </FONT></B> <FONT
>SIZE=1
> > FACE="Arial">O'Neill, Sean [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]</FONT>
> > <BR><B><FONT SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Sent: </FONT></B> <FONT
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> > SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
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>FACE="Arial">Subject: </FONT></B>
> > <FONT
> > SIZE=1 FACE="Arial">Data load options</FONT>
> > </P>
> >
> > <P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I'm trying to compile a list of options for
> > loading
> > data into an Oracle</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">database on NT platform. What I've
> > come up
> > with so far is:</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">[1] SQL script that performs inserts,
> > updates.</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">[2] SQL Loader utility</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">[3] Import utility</FONT>
> > </P>
> >
> > <P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Are there others?</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Anyone care to share experience based
> > opinions on
> > pros and cons of the</FONT>
> > <BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">methods?</FONT>
> > </P>
> > <BR>
> >
> > <P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Sean :)</FONT>
> > </P>
> >
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