Doing a shutdown abort is hardly dangerous.

Granted, it is not as clean as shutdown normal or shutdown abort, but it is
not dangerous.

All it does is severe the connections.  When the instance comes up, it goes
through and starts rolling back looking through rbs and redo logs.

I look at shutdown abort lightly, I perfer not to do it and I avoid it, but
if I need to do it, I do it without hesitation and without concern I am in
danger.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

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You should wait for PMON ending its job of rollback
the transaction of that killed session. Since one of
the releases of 8i that duty is a new one for the
SMON. 

You have few options. If you are in a hurry, you could
do shutdown abort. First issue an alter system
checkpoint; just in case a maybe possible recover
problem later. You see that it is a little risky. With
a shutdown immediate, you might wait a lot. Even that
you could afford it because of the dangerous of the
abort option. The other is to issue through svrmgrl or
sqlplus depending on the release an 

oradebug wakeup <orapid of PMON or SMON depending on
the release>

However there is a little chance that with this you
could hurry the PMON for the rollback of the
transaction.

You can see how much work the PMON or SMON have to do
through v$transaction:

select b.sid,a.used_ublk from v$transaction
a,v$session b
where addr=taddr and b.status='KILLED';


Regards.


--- Andrey Bronfin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all !
> I have killed a session while it was populating a
> big table.
> Now the session is marked KILLED in v$session.
> It's serial# is keeping being incremented , so i
> assume that a rollback (of
> rows inserted into that big table by that session)
> is going on there in the
> background.
> This rollback runs for several hours already
> preventing me from DMLing that
> big table.
> Is there a way to stop that rollback / drop /
> truncate that table ?
> Thanks a lot in advance .
> Andrey.
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