Title: RE: Speed up Truncate tables - rebuild index

Actually Chris if you truncate a table, the indexes on the table are truncated right along with it.  You don't end up with a sparse index, like when you delete many rows.  Try it.  I did (8.1.6)  and was very happy to see this behavior. 

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Administrator
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
954-935-4117


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    Don't forget to rebuild your indexes...

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      Cool!� I just tried it - works like a charm!

      Tom Mercadante
      Oracle Certified Professional

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        Not true, at least in 8i. Using 'alter table move ' you could change the initial extent size..

        SQL>alter table test move storage (initial 2M);

        Table altered.

        Only catch here is that 'move' command doesn't apply to tables having long ,long raw, LOB etc..Initial extent can be changed for the remaining tables..

        Thanks
        Riyaj "Re-yas" Shamsudeen
        Certified Oracle DBA
        i2 technologies � www.i2.com



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        You are correct, unless your using 9i, you cannot alter the initial extent
        without dropping the table.

        "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
        when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

        Christopher R. Spence
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        Thomas,
        are your sure you can change the initial extent? �My senior dba told me once
        it is not possible; you have to drop and recreate table if there is a need
        to change Initial extent. I am going to play with it today.

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        Chuan,

        Kevin is correct. �If your truncate table is taking a *long* time (and the
        table is not locked by another process), it's because your storage params
        are incorrect for the amount of data you are holding.

        Look at initial and next in comparison with the number of extents
        (DBA_EXTENTS view) for the table in question, and modify them before you
        load the data. You can modify the INITIAL extent by issuing an 'alter table
        allocate extent(size x)' command to grow the INITIAL extent. �
        You can also modify the NEXT extent by issuing an 'alter table storage (next
        x)' command to change the NEXT extent.

        hope this helps.

        Tom Mercadante
        Oracle Certified Professional


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        I had the same problem when truncating a huge table (24 Mill rows). � It
        turned out that the reason my table was taking so long was the amount of
        extents I had on it. �I could look at what was actually happening during a
        truncate and it had to go and take each individual block and put them back
        in the available lists. �

        Well, after changing the settings on the table to make larger extents (and
        therefore fewer) the truncates on that table went hundreds of times faster
        (we had real bad settings on that table before).

        You might investigate your storage parms and see just how many extents you
        do have on that table.

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        Hi All,

        � �Is there any way to speed up the truncating a big table with 12 million
        rows?

        Basically, I implemented truncating that big table on Production, but it
        affected the performance much, so I had to stop it in the middle of way. All
        the rows were truncated but the HWM was not shrunk at all. I want to do it
        again to get the space back. Is there any way to speed up this process?

        Platform: Oracle EE8.0.6 and Solaris 2.7

        Thanks a lot in advance.

        Chuan

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