Good point Glenn.

Along with not rebooting every time you install or remove software.

And being able to logon to the machine without PC Anwhere, or
win2k telnet server or whatever, which is restricted to 2 sessions.

Need to get on the box?  Just telnet or ssh over there and do
what you need.

No trying to hunt down who has the box locked up with PC Anywhere,
and then going to the computer room when you can't find who it is.

Jared




                                                                                       
                              
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Exactly.  There is bad code (and drivers) everywhere.  Windows OS does not
protect itself as well as the unix OS.  NT, 2000 and XP are all better than
98 in this realm, however.  MS is finally getting the point.  But the point
is valid.  A bad program should core itself, not crash the OS.  It is up
the OS to prevent this.  I have worked on alot unix flavors in the past and
all of them behave better than MS in this aspect.

As far as which OS is best... "it depends" - on what you want to
accomplish...
     -----Original Message-----
     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adams,
     Matthew (GEA, 088130)
     Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:48 PM
     To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
     Subject: RE: but will it run windows?



     I gotta disagree with you on one particular point here.


     When an application gets a error and OS crashes, it IS
     the OS fault.  The OS should be written in such a way
     that when an application error occurs, the OS doesn't
     have to be rebooted.  I believe it IS the OSes fault.





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     Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     Doing linear scans over an associative array is like
       trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi.
                      - Larry Wall (creator of Perl)





     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
     > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:35 PM
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     > Subject: RE: but will it run windows?
     >
     >
     > No I did not say that.
     >
     > What I am saying, is most people install 100 programs, one of
     > them acts like
     > crap and they blame it on the OS.
     >
     > Because there is 5 million people programming for Win32 and probably
     2
     > million of them suck, that is not at all the OS's fault.
     >
     > The problem (in my opinion) stems from there is too many
     > people coding for
     > the os and too many hardware manufactors putting out code and
     > hardware.  It
     > is almost impossible to guarentee compatability, much less
     > competent code.
     >
     > There api is fairly open, it is almost completely published.
     > Although it is not open source or anything of that nature.
     >
     > "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their
     > shoes, that way
     > when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

     >
     > Christopher R. Spence
     > Oracle DBA
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     >
     > -----Original Message-----
     > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:33 PM
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     >
     >
     > So you're saying, unless you run only M$ products it still
     > sucks.  They need
     > to tighten up and open up the API's.  Then windows would be great.
     >
     > --Scott
     >
     >
     > Christopher Spence wrote:
     > >
     > > I am much a unix person over M$, but the simple fact is
     > Win32 serves
     > > many purposes.  And it crashing all the time is a fairy
     > tail that unix
     > > people like to tell.  Yeah, it isn't as stable as unix, and most
     of
     > > the problems are related to software and drivers which have
     > nothing to
     > > do with the OS.
     > >
     > > Christopher R. Spence
     > > Oracle DBA
     >
     > >
     > > -----Original Message-----
     > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:27 AM
     > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
     > >
     > > > -----Original Message-----
     > > > From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
     > > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:51 AM
     > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
     > > > Subject: RE: but will it run windows?
     > > >
     > > > I hate windows and all it stands for, but I can't stand
     > when people
     > > > say it crashes all the time and completely useless.
     > >
     > > OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the
     > time and if it
     > > wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use
     > a computer
     > > to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous,
     > > although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2.
     > > Hopefully, the statement above will mitigate your feelings
     > toward us,
     > > the  poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our
     > everyday's bread
     > > and Dom Perignon.
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