RE: Siebel - ODB.

Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:20:34 -0800

Title: RE: Siebel - ODB.
Lisa,
 
One arguement I lost regarding business rules (foreign keys) in the application, rather than in the database was that it made the application "database independent", not relying on database tools that might exist in one database but not another.  In theory, this gave this person more opportunity to sell the application to another organization that would prefer to use, say, DB2 rather than Oracle.
 
I'm not agreeing with the philosophy, but at the time, it made some business sense.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

-----Original Message-----
From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Siebel - ODB.

Why implement it in the database when you can write more bloated, more complex code?  Databases don't work anyway.  It also gives us a chance to issue more patches. 

I have NEVER understood why some people take the angle of not letting the database do what it is designed for.  And I don't think I ever will.  I pray I never meet the DBA's of Yore and Yesteryear.

Rant on, Mark!

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Bimbo.
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
954-935-4117


    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Mark Leith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    Sent:   Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:55 PM
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    Subject:        RE: Siebel.

    <RANT MODE>

    BAH!! These bloody application providers leaving the integrity to their
    bloody applications instead of leaving it in it's rightful place in the
    database!!! Makes my life 10 times harder!!! Got no consideration at all
    have they?

    </RANT MODE>

    :P

    Thanks!

    Mark

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    We use Siebel and no it does NOT have RI.




    "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 11/28/2001 10:56:07 AM

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    Hi Gang,

    Does anybody use Siebel - I believe it's a CRM package?

    I'm trying to find out of the Siebel application enforces RI within the
    database or the application? Anybody know?

    Cheers

    Mark

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