Should we parse you handle, O,rant, DBA. That's it! R ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:03 AM
> Hi all, > > The oca exams are the same exams you would take on the way to being an > OCP under the current program. The only difference is along the way you > can get a designation of OCA. Not unlike Microsofts MCP. > > John > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > From the website: > > > > --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all > > required exams > > --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level. > > > > > > > > The way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get > > the OCP. So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass > > the OCA, you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you > > cannot even take the OCM. > > > > > > > > --Chris > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SARKAR, Samir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:28 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > Am not clear on this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 > > exams....right ?? So, if we get the > > > > OCP Associate after passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another > > 3 exams for getting OCP > > > > or do we have to go through all the 5 exams all over again ?? > > > > > > > > I think we can directly sit for the OCP tests though instead of > > going through the OCA. But to get the > > > > OCP Master, we will necessarily have to b a OCP. > > > > > > > > Do correct me if I am wrong though. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > Samir Sarkar > > Oracle DBA - Lennon Team > > Schlumberger Sema > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Phone : +44 (0) 115 - 95 76217 > > EPABX : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6418 Ext. 76217 > > Fax : +44 (0) 115 - 957 6018 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 10 January 2002 15:05 > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised > > > > I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the requirements > > for each. You can't just take the OCM exam. No we would > > first have to get the OCA. Whether or not we need the entry > > level cert we have to have it. Then, and only then, can we > > take the OCP. Then and only then, can we take the OCM and > > that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed. > > So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to > > spend money in a class that they could probably teach from > > memory before they can get certification and that is after > > getting 2 other certs that have no value to them. Call me a > > cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab. > > > > From the website: > > > > --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams required > > -- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role. > > Typically, > > --two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the > > Internet, > > --while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored > > environment. By > > --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward > > achieving the > > -- Oracle Certified Professional credential. > > > > > > --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass > > all required exams > > --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate > > level. > > > > > > --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an > > Oracle > > --Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM > > credential > > --requires attending two advanced level Oracle University > > courses from > > --the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM > > Practicum exam. > > > > > > --Chris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: The OCP bar is being raised > > > > > > Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time: > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > --- > > Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified Professional > > (OCP) Achievement > > > > A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services > > quoted database > > professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing > > areas of Professional > > Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com on > > Certification, 58% of > > respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified > > Oracle Certified > > Professionals-Database Administrators. > > > > To meet this demand, we have recently introduced two new > > levels of professional > > achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to Application > > and Java Developers > > worldwide): > > > > The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level Oracle > > qualification > > requiring successful completion of two exams. > > The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification > > for Oracle > > Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take > > a practicum exam > > on-sitee at an Oracle University education center. > > Visit > > http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.htm l > > > > for more information > > > > IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001 > > crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > ----- > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) > > 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / > > Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > > and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). > > You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > > individual to whom it is addressed. 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