I have both Sun and HP boxes. IMHO for OS installation and hardware
replacement, Sun is much easier than HP. Actually, I've found everything
easier on Sun, but for the really hard core SA stuff, I do rely on the SA
"gods" here and they probably have a different opinion than I do. My bias
toward Sun is mostly from better familiarity with Sun than HP and I haven't
noticed the Sun machines being any less stable than the HP's for anything.
Julie Fisher
Sandia National Laboratories
Oracle 8i DBA - OCP8i
Solaris 2.6,7/HP-UX 11.0 System Administrator
Web Server Administrator
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Thanks, Dennis, my boss is thinking HP already. As far as flavor of UNIX,
that wouldn't matter much. I'll have to learn it from scratch anyway.
Best regards,
Sergey
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Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box
Sergey - Sorry for the confusion. Our ERP system is Lawson and I somehow had
a brain fart and thought you were on that email list. If you management is
just thinking about Unix, then the last thing you want to do is scare them
off with an argument about which Unix. Start every reply with "of course all
these are excellent choices and it will be no doubt difficult to choose
between these really great systems". It sounds as if your application won't
be very dependent on the flavor of Unix, so then you don't need to be so
concerned about the long-term trends. Boxes are easier to replace than
in-house developed software, it's just that software doesn't show up in the
financial reports.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi, Dennis,
Just got back to work and found your message. It's a shame, but I don't
know what Lawson is. Well, I used to be a chemical engineer in Soviet Union
and didn't know Oracle existed... Anyway, I appreciate your reply. As far as
that box, it's supposed to be a box for our main production. We have a
pretty simple financial application, but huge OLTP and A LOT of reports.
There's no programming except for my short scripts which I create to extend
the app functionality (it is VERY old). The company is very lax on
investments. Nonetheless, they're contemplating a switch to UNIX, and that I
call a major move! Let's see what happens. Thanks for your reply again.
Best regards,
Sergey
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Subject: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box
Sergey - One factor you may want to consider is the timeframe of your
decision. If it is just a decision for your Lawson box, then that isn't so
critical. It is pretty easy to move Lawson from one system to another.
Last fall we were looking at making a decision for all our systems.
We are on Compaq Tru64, and that doesn't have a long future ahead of it. The
META Group advice was that only three operating systems can be considered to
have a stable future:
1. MS W2K
2. Linux
3. Solaris
Most of the other Unix vendors are facing the next generation of computer
chip architecture. I don't believe that HP is investing in the next
generation itself, but will be switching to the new Intel 64-bit chips.
Based on that advice, we chose Solaris because W2K and Linux are not
up to the same standards as Solaris today. To repeat, we are looking at a
lot of programming beyond Lawson, so our decision was based on more than
simply purchasing the next box. We will have our Lawson system on Tru64 for
several more years.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Thank you, Paul, I'll forward it to my boss... Anyone else to add to it?
Thank you very much,
Sergey Babich
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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:55 PM
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Stay with HP. It's a hell of a lot more reliable, and does not require
anywhere near the # of patches, and its patches work far more often that
Sun's. I've done 5 years with each, and there's no question that HP is
superior.
Thank you,
Paul Sherman
DBA
voice - 781-501-4143 (office)
fax - 781-278-8341 (office)
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Our shop is switching from HP to Sun. No one can tell me why. There must
be a cost savings somewhere.
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Hi, dear listers,
My boss has decided to switch production to a UNIX box and now he's asking
me for a recommendation between HP and SUN. I am a newbee to UNIX (to put it
the softest way). I've heard people say HP is better, but need more than
that...
The DB itself is about 40G on RAID (currently on Windoze 2k). Any advice is
greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Sergey Babich
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