Aint that the truth, open arms and then some <EG> :) joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Joe. > > A little OT has usually been acceptable here. > > Even some humor. The only time it became a problem > is when it veered away from having anything to do with > Oracle and oracle related work issues. > > People would start posting ethnic and off color jokes, > ranting about their favorite pet peeve, ad nauseum. > > If you want to do that, go to the off topic list. They will > welcome you with open arms. We won't even discuss > how Ross and Eric may welcome you. > > Jared > ( list owner, baby sitter and part time DBA ) > > > > > > > Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 01/21/02 05:10 PM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: Re: OT: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion > > > Tim, i'm with you, and since Paul does not evidently know who the list > owner is here since he's making waves on the very few anymore OT posts > that are here anymore and that the list owner was the one talking about > tribbles. > > Paul, feel free to start your own list and manage it as you please. > > joe > > > Johnston, Tim wrote: > > >>My own 2 cents... Stating a viewpoint such as this and then saying "do >> > not > >>reply to this" is just not acceptable... This topic has been discussed >> > on > >>the list innumerable times over the years and it is always a hot bed of >>discussion... And, it always seems to reach the same conclusion... In >>summary, keep it on topic but the occasional OT post is tolerated... >>Anything more then that should not be done or moved to the OT list... >> > So, > >>here we are yet again... And, here is MY opinion... I view this list >> > as a > >>community... Not just a technical list... Many people on this list >> > have > >>been on for years and enjoy to occasionally have some fun... I >> > personally > >>enjoy the occasional joke or OT thread... It gives the list personality >> > and > >>allows me feel like I am getting to know the other people on the list... >>That is why I am on this list and not some of the other discussion >> > forums... > >>Some other forums operate as you desire... I avoid those... The reason >> > is > >>that I want to enjoy my job... And the occasional laugh I get from this >>list has more then once made a miserable day better... If I wanted to >>purely technical list I would go to another forum... But I don't.... I >>like this list AS IS... And, if I feel that I am getting to much email, >> > the > >>delete key works great... >> >>Tim >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:10 AM >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> >> >>Hello all, >> >>My 2 cents' worth: >> >>Far too much time is spent by a number of users in the Oracle List >> > sending > >>e-mail of no worth whatsoever. Half the msgs I read are what charitably >>might be called 'chat'. I understand that there is an off-line site for >>'chat' - why not use it and stop mucking up the e-mail waves with crap. >> > Even > >>a small drop in aimless e-mails would be appreciated; 90%+ directed, >>professional queries and replies would be wonderful. >> >>Please do not reply to this e-mail; this is my one-time attempt to bring >>about a positive change. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Paul Sherman >>DBA >>voice - 781-501-4143 (office) >>fax - 781-278-8341 (office) >>email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:36 AM >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> >> >>Love is all you need. >> >>--- Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>or, of course, the answer to life, the universe and everything is? >>> >>>--- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>If the question is "Which episode of Star Trek was 'The Trouble >>>> >>>> >>>with >>> >>> >>>>Tribbles'", then yes. ;) >>>> >>>>Jared >>>> >>>>On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:30, Mogens N�rgaard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Yep. And we also found logoff-triggers in 8i to be useful for the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>same >>>> >>>> >>>>>(and additional) purposes. >>>>> >>>>>But if I had to guess, I'm sure the answer would be 42 :-). >>>>> >>>>>Mogens >>>>> >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Raj, >>>>>>Maybe another option would be to "audit session" for the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>database. >>> >>> >>>>For >>>> >>>> >>>>>>each logon/logoff you would see the logical/physical reads and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>logical writes ( in dba_audit_session) by Oracle username (or >>>>>>osusername). Chaim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Aponte, Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 01/16/2002 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>06:15:24 PM >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>>>>> >>>>>> >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>>>>>cc: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Then you're in luck. I'd recommend starting with Oracle >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Response >>> >>> >>>>Time >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Analysis from www.orapub.com. Although it won't give you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>exactly >>> >>> >>>>what >>>> >>>> >>>>>>you need, it will help you get to the next step. Once you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>understand a >>>> >>>> >>>>>>session's response time components, it's a short hop to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>figuring >>> >>> >>>>out the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>V$SESSTAT statistics that make up the CPU time, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>physical/logical >>> >>> >>>>I/O >>>> >>>> >>>>>>operations and memory footprint. >>>>>> >>>>>>HTH >>>>>>Tony >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:54 PM >>>>>>To: Aponte, Tony; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Database Load ... is the main target at this time ... >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks Tony, >>>>>> >>>>>>Raj >>>>>>______________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>>Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>>Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com >>>>>> >>>>>>Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>of ESPN >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>>QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>art! >>> >>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:53 PM >>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Raj, sorry for me being confused. Are you trying to measure >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>what >>> >>> >>>>the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>application executable is doing outside the database (i.e.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>host >>> >>> >>>>system >>>> >>>> >>>>>>load) or the activity inside the database (i.e.. per >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>user/program/module >>>> >>>> >>>>>>DB stats)? >>>>>> >>>>>>Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >>>>-- >>>>Author: Jared Still >>>> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >>>>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing >>>>Lists >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>>>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>>>to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>>>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>>>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >>>>also send the HELP command for other information (like >>>> >>>> >>>subscribing). >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! >>>http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ >>>-- >>>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >>>-- >>>Author: Rachel Carmichael >>> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >>>San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing >>>Lists >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>>to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>>(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >>>also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >>> >>> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! >>http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ >> >> > > -- Joe Testa, Oracle DBA Want to have a good time with a bunch of geeks? Check out: http://www.geekcruises.com/standard_interface/future_cruises.html I'm presenting, when registering drop my name :) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
