Hello JoJo Do not stop using the list and asking silly questions. Of course, smart questions are a lot better. I did a blooper myself a week ago and got the deserved responses. So what. I learn a lot and enjoy even a good flame.
Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: JoJo Al-Zawawi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tue, January 29, 2002 11:46 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL) > > Yeah....as I replied to a kind gentleman who wrote me off-list, I think I > will simply refrain from posting at all, since this place is a bit touchy. > As I said, I'm totally a newbie (I just started my classes last week). > > --JoJo > > > -----Original Message----- > Travis > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:28 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > prepare for the flood.... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JoJo Al-Zawawi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:16 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: RTFM questions (formally RE: PL/SQL) > > > > > > I'm a complete newbie, so I may be off-base here, but I believe that > > truncating a table does not delete any data from the table. > > It moves the > > cursor up, thereby closing up the "empty space" where data > > has previously > > been deleted. > > > > --JoJo > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:46 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > To our resident Oracle Expert who just 6 months (July 26 > > 2001) ago posted > > the following e-mail > > > > > > If I remember rightly, deleting rows from the table does NOT free up > > tablespace. In order to do that you have to trunctate the > > table (although > > this of course deletes all data from the table)...I can't for > > the life of me > > remember how you adjust the space the table is actually using > > after doing a > > delete...(to everyone else) would an analyze work? > > > > Kev. > > > > "would and analyze work", leave it out kev(or thomas), my sides are > > splitting Im laughing that much" > > "Dude you really are a sage" > > I agree dude, you tell them beginners how u became such an expert in 6 > > months and didn't come out with stupid ****** comments like > > above, and dude, > > explain more about this defrag,space adjusting tool "the > > analyze command": > > > > Unfortunately I only got dragged into this because I just saw > > one of your > > rude replies and I was having a bad day and didn't like your > > attitude., I > > have no idea about the guy you were slagging off as I don't > > get time to read > > all the posts, but it looks like 6 months ago you were no > > better than him, > > and nobody on the list, I recall, treated you with the > > contempt that you > > actually deserved. > > > > As somebody on the list said "opinions are like arseholes, > > everybody's got > > one and they all stink" (classic ,classic quote): > > > > Anyhow I rest my case Kev (or thomas): > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:12 PM > > > > > > > And your point caller?? > > > > > > TIC ;o) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: 29 January 2002 15:41 > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > No offense to anybody, but I think this is rather arrogant. > > The list is > > for > > > anybody (unless the list owner decides it's just for > > experienced dba's). I > > > am brand new to Oracle, having just started learning it > > this week. I can > > > easily foresee having what some might consider stupid or > > RTFM questions, > > and > > > being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems > > deciphering > > the > > > manual. I myself am somewhat of a Word pro (and my vba > > code samples page > > is > > > the #1 ranked site of its kind on most major search > > engines) and I help > > all > > > kinds of newbies out on a Word list of which I am a member, > > as do all the > > > other members of the list. Everybody on that list is > > extremely gracious > > and > > > nobody complains -- and the people with questions get the > > help they need, > > > with nobody sitting back going "boy are you stupid / lazy". > > I am hoping > > > that I can get the same kind of help here, when I am ready > > for it, that I > > > and others give on other lists. > > > > > > --JoJo > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that if you always ask the group for help, > > you never learn > > > where the information is within the manuals or other reference > > documentation > > > and the group also gets cluttered with trivia. > > > > > > I agree with you that the list is here to help people and I > > personally do > > > not mind the odd naive question from a new DBA, but it is > > the "...can't be > > > bothered to look up the manual.." attitude that is most > > frustrating. When > > > you ask the format of a command (for example) to the list, you are > > > potentionally asking 1000's of people the same question who > > will all have > > to > > > spend the time to filter these questions - we are all busy > > people and I > > > personally do not want to use my time in this way. I'm > > sure you can see > > > that this is a much more expensive option than asking the > > person next to > > > you. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Craig. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 2:55 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > Why do you bother being on this List: The list is here to > > help fellow > > > DBA'S. Have you never said to one of your collegues , what > > is the format > > of > > > this command, or how can I do that, when you simply cant be > > bothered to > > > look it up in the manual (either your busy or just down right lazy): > > > Sometimes this list is useful for just that. So why dont u > > lighten up > > dude. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > <http://www.orafaq.com> > > > -- > > > Author: > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / > > Mailing Lists > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > -- > > > Author: Thomas, Kevin > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / > > Mailing Lists > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Sam Roberts > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Glenn Travis > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: JoJo Al-Zawawi > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > This e-mail was scanned by the eSafe Mail Gateway > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: =?iso-8859-8?Q?=E0=E3=F8_=E9=E7=E9=E0=EC?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
