To add further, what I have read is, on Windows NT, being able to edit the
registry, could allow one to change the ORA_PWFILE value, and point to
their own password file. Hence, access to the registry should be resticted.

Raj





                                                                                       
                             
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I just remembered why remote_os_authent was so insecure
in v7 sqlnet v2:  you could become SYSTEM just by setting
USER_ID=SYSTEM in Oracle.ini, but the SYSTEM user
did *not* need to be identified externally.

That's what was so insecure.  I've just been trying to see if
any similar insecurities still exist. ( geez I love English :)

So far, no.

Jared





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Sounds about right to me.

The security part, that is.  :)

Jared

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 19:25, Seefelt, Beth wrote:
> I know I'm probably one of the few NT weenies on the list so I hope I
don't
> get too much guff from the unix guys...
>
> Disabling remote_os_authent and using external authentication are not
> mutually exclusive, and its not completely devoid of security in NT.
>
> Consider this configuration
>
> remote_os_authent=false
> osauth_prefix_domain=true
>
> sqlnet.authentication_services=(nts)
>
> Now I can create externally authenticated database accounts, prefixed
with
> the domain name instead of OPS$.  When they connect to the database
Oracle
> will authenticate them via Kerberos or NTLM, so their password doesn't
even
> have to be passed over the network.  And they are authenticated by the
> domain, so creating a rogue server and creating a user account with the
> same name still isn't going to get you authenticated, unless you can set
> the password on the rogue machine to the same password as the domain
> account.
>
> Or am I living in a rose colored dream world?
>
> Beth
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Well, yes, the can set their name to SYSTEM, SYS, SCOTT, whatever, and
so
> long as your authentication demands an OPS$ or basically any other non
null
> string of characters, who cares?  OPS$SYSTEM is not going to wind up
being
> a DBA... now, if OPS$STILL is a DBA, and someone sets their PC to STILL,
> then you've got a problem.
>
> The long and short of it is that the OPS security is only as good as the
> box it is serving.  If you're on any computer with C level security or
> higher, there is nothing wrong with using OPS$ as you are using
operating
> system level security.  So, if, for example, you are using VMS, MVS,
CDC,
> Cray, or anything us old folks might have used 10 years ago, OPS$ is
> terrific.  If your operating system is making Bill Gates richer, you
have
> no security to speak of.
>
> The question you want to ask yourself is how good is your front-end
> security?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Can you explain that?  You have me scared now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> They can also set their username to 'SYSTEM'.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
> Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> anyone can name their pc "oracle" and then connect in if you set
> "remote_os_authent"
>
> --- "Smith, Ron L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone have any information on security problems using the OPS$
> > account?
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