April,

  We upgraded from 10.7 to 11i.  We had to apply around 200 patches.  The entire 
upgrade project took 9 months.
  I suggest hiring consultants to help with the install.  This will consume 100% of 
you time until it is fully implemented.  After that it will consume around 50% of your 
time, depending on the modules you will be using.  If you are the only DBA, start 
pushing management to hire another person.  You will need to tune the concurrent 
managers, apply patches, "clone" the entire environment, etc.  We  have 1 person 
dedicated to administering the applications portion - creating users, monitoring the 
concurrent managers, assisting users with problems, applying patches, etc.  We have a 
dba dedicated to backups, tuning, assisting with patches, assisting with client 
issues, etc.
  Welcome to hell.



Jay Hostetter
Oracle DBA
D. & E. Communications
Ephrata, PA  USA

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April:

  Let me add to Bambi's wonderful comments.  Administering Oracle
Applications can be a daunting task.  Like no other canned application you
have ever implemented.  Don't count on the product installing correctly
100%.  Don't count on just installing it one time and then leaving it alone.
I guarantee that you will be applying thousands of patches once the
installation is "complete???".  This product needs A LOT of hand holding so
get your boots on and be ready.

  There are many people in this and the OAUG forum that can help you.  I
would suggest reading the installation and configuration guide cover to
cover and preparing you System Admins for hell.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
Technical Alliance Manager
Compuware Corporation
Direct: (248) 865-4350
Mobile: (248) 408-2918
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Web:    www.compuware.com 


 -----Original Message-----
Sent:   Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:53 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:        RE: TFM

April --

Get onto Metalink -> Top Tech Docs.  There's more there than you'll be able
to read in a lifetime.  One thing to know is that once you install
Applications, your life as a DBA *will* change.  

Good luck!
Bambi.   

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:07 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

We are getting ready to sign a contract with Oracle for Financials.  I have
been looking for the manuals so I can read up on what their suggestions are
for installation, tuning... for the 3000+ tables and associated other back
end stuff... anyone know where they can be found.  I can find some on Oracle
Apps Net, but not really the kind of stuff I am looking for... are their
other?

April Wells
Oracle DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas


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