I find both the observations Jim made during the class and the remarks from the
SqlServer list as both interesting.  Having worked with SQL*Server as well as
being an Oracle addict I observe that we each view our RDBMS choices as the best
there is which is kind of valid.  It's just very interesting how much more you
can do when the software vendor is not so self assured that he knows best.  Oh,
you don't believe MicroSlop knows what is in your best interest?  Go read the
fine print on your license agreement, you've already agreed to that.

    Now pardon me while I allow Bill to drive.  He says I need a patch for
Access & those Oracle tools are in the way and require deleting.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Jesse; Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       2/19/2002 8:43 AM

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> To: "SQL 7 Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> *When txn log fills up, have to just "truncate" the log in order for
> processing to continue.  Leaves system vulnerable until you get a full DB
> backup.
> >>>>>> Seems a little like disk space filling up in Oracle.  How is this
> >>>>>> different?

Interesting.  When this happened to us Oracle-wise, I just moved the oldest
archives to a mount point that did have enough room.  Since we at least had
enough forethought to incorporate several redo log groups, the DB never
stopped.  And since we never actually deleted any archive logs, we were
never at great risk of permanent loss of data.

Or we could have also duplexed the arches offsite, too.  Because we all know
that RAID controllers NEVER fail...

"Truncate the log."  Yeah, right.

Ya know, as much as I have whined about the way Oracle does some things
(e.g. stupid-ass security-by-obscurity for DBAs and some wierd things with
OiD), I still think it's the best yet available.

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
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