We switched to names server last year. We had our NT administrator net use
to each client in the company (effectively assigning a drive to the
administrators machine) and  copy the sqlnet.ora over to the remote
machine. Fired up about 10 machines and updated > 1000 systems in three
different waves. Worked
pretty smooth.

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration

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Yechiel,

That's all well and good if you get to set it up from the beginning.

I inherited it.  Tnsname.ora everywhere.  Different desktops with 
different names for the
same databases. It's a nightmare.  I plan to setup Onames when I get a 
chance to do so.

Putting tnsnames.ora on network file servers wouldn't work so well.  We 
have offices
( and users ) in Asia, North America, Europe and the Middle East. 

At least I only have hundreds of desktops to deal with rather than 
thousands.

Jared






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Hello All

I saw some remarks about updating tnsnames on many desktops.
Why would you have tnsnames in every machine?
I put our client software on a central server, with the tnsnames.
One update to the tnsnames in the server apply to all.
Installing for a new PC is importing the registry entries
and add two paths to the search list, done in two minutes.


Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> I agree with everyone.  Oracle Names saved many days/months of 
maintenance
> time in migrating new TNSNAMES to over 30000 desktops.  The only gotchas
> with ON was the creation of a separate Administrative database and 24x7
> maintenance of it.  With the new extensibility features not requiring a
> database, that job was made much easier.
> 
> However, the move to LDAP will benefit you even more because all you 
need
> to
> do is put an entry in the directory server for the instances and "magic"
> occurs.  I personally hate the concept of the TNSNAMES file because if
> violates the "knowledge" security standard of knowing what databases are
> within the environment.  Any savvy user can figure out how to hack in 
once
> they have that kind of information.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Stephen P. Karniotis
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> 
> I agree with you Jared.   On the last job we had TNSNAMES files out to
> everyones work station ..... got to be a pain.   Installed Names, 
created
> the right files ..... bingo, all worked .   Very easy.
> 
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> 
> Completely removing names from Oracle would be a mistake IMO.
> 
> Reason:  Name is fairly easy to implement,  LDAP is anything but.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Names server is depreciated in 9i, but still there.
> They were going to remove it, but I think there was a bit of a backlash, 

> so
> they have delayed
> the removal.
> OID (LDAP) is the replacement.
> 
> We use names server here, have found it to be pretty stable and reduced
> tnsnames.ora
> administration nicely.
> 
> RF
> 
> 
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> Oracle DBA Technical Lead
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
> 
> The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can
> take his freedom away from him.
> 
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> 
> Names server will be obsolete in 9i, I think.
> 
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> 
> Hi ALL:
>     Is any one using names server out there?  How the it works?  Any 
infor
> are wellcome.
> 
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