you aren't wrong :)

--- "Freeman, Robert " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually the rollback segment header in the first extent exists in a
> single
> block, the rest of the first extent, as I understand it, is available
> for
> undo. Thus making INITIAL and NEXT the same should be of no
> consequence in
> this regard.
> 
> It is my understanding (and I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm
> wrong) the
> reason for a requirement of 2 extents is to allow the tail/wrap
> architecture
> that Oracle uses for rollback segments. 
> 
> RF
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:54 PM
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> 
> Oracle recommends the size NEXT=INITIAL.
> So if I had 10M initial, then most of the initial beyond the 
> header info will be wasted? Sure not!
> 
> Kumanan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       11 March 2002 21:48
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:    RE: A rollback segment question on minextents
> > 
> > the first extent is used by oracle as the segment header to manage
> the
> > transaction information within the rollback segment. The second
> extent
> > contains the actual change vectors
> > 
> > 
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > My point was that it could allocate one more extent as per need.
> Why
> > > the
> > > need to minextents = 2?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Kumanan
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:   Stephane Faroult [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent:   07 March 2002 20:54
> > > > To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject:        Re: A rollback segment question on minextents
> > > > 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was wondering why Oracle force minextents for rollback
> > > > > segments to be two. Why can't we have minextents zero or
> > > > > no minextents clause at all.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We can surely set initial extent to be large enough ourselves
> > > > > and next extent sized accordingly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can someone enlighten me on the reason/thought behind this?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Many thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kumanan Balasundaram
> > > > > Database Administrator, IT
> > > > > QXL ricardo plc
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> > > > 
> > > > Oracle doesn't reuse an extent which contains active
> transactions.
> > > What
> > > > do you think would happen when you reach the end of your
> initial
> > > extent
> > > > ? Exactly.
> > > > -- 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Stephane Faroult
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