One correction: Oracle holds "shared" lock on the files, not "exclusive". If it'd be "exclusive" - hot backup would be impossible. Still, "shared" lock is enough to prevent from deleting, moving, or renaming file.
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:48 PM > Hi Lisa > > Just check that the files owner is who you think it should be and check > the permissions. > A great thing NT Admins are god for is changing permissions in a directory > at teh top of a tree and propagating it down with teh include > subdirectories checkbox. > > > the OS error Access denied says either you don't have permissions on the > file or another process is holding a file lock on it. A reboot of teh > server should clear that if you cant resolve it by other means > > Oh and you are right Oracle holds exclusive locks on the files at the OS > level and as such if you try and move or delete them it won't happen > > > Cheers > > > -- > ================================================= > Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Technical Consultant WWW: http://www.mincom.com > APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 > Brisbane, Australia Mobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 > Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 > ================================================= > A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. > > - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) > ================================================= > Mincom "The People, The Experience, The Vision" > > ================================================= > > > > > > > > "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 03/04/2002 07:38 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Fax to: > Subject: RE: Database shut itself down > > > I thought you couldn't delete a database file in Windows when the database > is up? I have tried and tried to no avail. > > Maybe this is a nice 'feature' but it doesn't leave much room for testing > b&r > > Lisa Koivu > Oracle Database Brick House - 36-54-36 > Fairfield Resorts, Inc. > 954-935-4117 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Hallas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:53 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re: Database shut itself down > > > > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news > > That normally happens when someone has deleted the file by mistake. > > > > Other suggestions could be that it was being archived or locked by some > > other process which inhibited Oracle from updating the file. > > > > Has the database restarted OK. > > > > HTH > > > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Dave > > Sent: 02 April 2002 20:03 > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > I have a 8.1.7 database running on NT 4.0 that had a problem this > morning > > and shut itself down. In the <SID>Alert.log I have the following error. > > > > Tue Apr 02 10:47:40 2002 > > KCF: write/open error block=0x21de online=1 > > file=10 J:\ORANT\ORADATA\TDISPACH\DISDATA01_01.DBF > > error=27072 txt: 'OSD-04008: WriteFile() failure, unable to write > to > > file > > O/S-Error: (OS 5) Access is denied.' > > DBW0: terminating instance due to error 1242 > > Instance terminated by DBW0, pid = 287 > > > > > > This is a new for me. Any ideas what I am dealing with? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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