I was not referring to you personally Paul.  I obviously have no idea
what you set your pctincrease to.

-----Original Message-----
Paul R.
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:22 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello,

Well, I'm puzzled. I have pctincrease set to 0, so I guess I'm  not
'scared'. And I see nothing wrong in having DBSNMP under SYSTEM tblsp, along
with SYS and SYSTEM. DBSNMP is hardly a major growth user. I have oversight
of all dev/test/prod databases, so I know what's going on day to day. And
the expression that you were prob. meant to use was 'you can not teach an
old dog new tricks'. I certainly qualify for that, as I have been using
computers (programming, proj. mgt., dba) since 1960, long enough to know
better than to slight people for telling someone how they approach a
situation.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
DBA
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:28 PM
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I am with Lisa.  But then again there are folks out there who are still
scared to change the pctincrease to 0 on the SYSTEM tablespace.  I no longer
care unless its on one of my databases.  Sometimes you just can't teach a
dog new tricks:-(

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:53 AM
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Paul, what's your reasoning behind this?  I have always changed the default
and temp tablespace of everything except SYS to something else.  I was under
the impression the SYSTEM tablespace should only hold the data dictionary.

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Tank Rash.
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
954-935-4117


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sherman, Paul R. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:29 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      RE: Foreign Objects in the System Tablespace.
>
> Jay,
>
> I always set up my production databases having SYSTEM, SYS, and DBSNMP
> with
> default tblsp of SYSTEM; SYS gets temp tblsp of TEMP. Users like ORACLE,
> OUTLN, TRACESVR, ORDSYS, etc. get TOOLS tblsp for default (and TEMP for
> temp
> tblsp). I have never had any problems doing it this way.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Paul Sherman
> DBA
> voice -  781-501-4143 (office)
> fax    -  781-278-8341 (office)
> email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>   I am trying to determine what Oracle "officially" considers foreign
> objects in the SYSTEM tablespace.  If you check out Note 122669.1, section
> 7.1, Oracle recommends a query to find foreign objects in your system
> tablespace.  This query will report such users as:
>
> AURORA$JIS$UTILITY$
> CTXSYS
> MDSYS
> ORDSYS
> OSE$HTTP$ADMIN
> OUTLN
>
>   It is part of our normal procedures to setup a TOOLS tablespace, and set
> this as the default tablespace for the user SYSTEM.  Objects such as
> SQLPLUS_PRODUCT_PROFILE will be created in this tablespace.  I've browsed
> around MetaLink and posted in one of the forums, but I'm not really
> getting
> any concrete answers as to which users should be permitted to have objects
> in the SYSTEM tablespace.  I do know that it is OK to move OUTLN to
> another
> tablespace.
>   Comments would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>
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