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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rachel
> Carmichael
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:09 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Curious question about flushing the Pool
>
> 4) If you haven't convinced the development staff that it really is
> essential that you are part of the design process, you will lose every
> fight

Been dealing with that lately, but not necessarily losing. Management issue with the 
left hand not talking to the right hand and
apps "suddenly" appearing and someone emailing you asking what's wrong with the 
database (performance is bad) and no one has ever
even heard of the application. "Oh yeah, we developed a web app and rolled it out this 
weekend. We decided to do some authentication
and validation against so and so database.". Well, thanks for telling us. But the 
thing is, someone in IT management knew, and
someone in the DBA group had to know for the priv's to be there. Big time 
communication problems within the IT group, and with
external groups.

But things *are* changing ;-) And they are starting to see the value of getting us 
involved early on in the process.

Larry G. Elkins
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