I thought there was a rollback segment in system that would be there.  It should
be enough to get things started.  After all, there isn't a separate one when you
create a database, until you create it.

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

> Scott - I think that Rachel offered better advice, and I'm sure you've read
> her note by now. I have some experience with missing files when cloning a
> database :-), but I haven't had the rollback tablespace missing, and that
> would be different. One thought would be to create an extra rollback
> tablespace on production, so that when you perform the clone operation,
> Oracle still has some rollback segments available.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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> Dennis,
>     No.  I did a create controlfile set database...  I commented out the
> rollback_segments line in the init.ora and removed the reference to the file
> in
> the create controlfile statement.  With no reference (that I know of) to the
> rollback segments or tablespace, I thought that the database should have
> come
> up, then I could create a new one.  I must have missed something, but I
> don't
> know what that was.
>
> DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
>
> > Scott - Let's see if I understand specifically what you did. You ran the
> > CREATE DATABASE script that was generated from your production system.
> Now,
> > since the datafile for rollback tablespace isn't there, Oracle will come
> up
> > without it. Once your new instance was up, then you did a DROP TABLESPACE
> on
> > the rollback tablespace, followed by a CREATE TABLESPACE. I've done that
> > scenario quite a few times on Oracle 8.1.6, just yesterday, as a matter of
> > fact (that was a temp tablespace). If those weren't your steps, then
> provide
> > more details.
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:48 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >     I spent a long time trying to clone our production data warehouse
> > into test, to refresh it.  I do this frequently, as both a way to
> > refresh test instances and to test the backups.  After fighting through
> > 2 bad backups, I finally got a good one.  However, the problem I had was
> > that the production rollback tablespace is larger than the disk on test.
> >
> >     My thought was that I could restore everything except the rollback
> > tablespace, which is not the way I usually do it.  I commented out the
> > rollback_segments line in the init.ora and created a script that would
> > create a new rollback tablespace and rollback segments, smaller than
> > those in production.  This didn't work, even though Oracle support said
> > it should have.  When I did the clone, the database would not open.  I
> > kept getting the following error:
> >
> > ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [25012], [1], [2], [], [],
> > [], [], []
> >
> > Does anyone know what I was doing wrong?  I can't figure it out, and
> > Oracle support couldn't figure it out, either.  I was able to get the
> > database up by getting more disk added, so that there was enough space
> > to restore the rollback tablespace file.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
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