What part of *DATABASE* Administrator don't they understand?
Jared
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Jesse - On another list today someone mentioned that auditors were upset
that the DBA had access to the application tables (like payroll tables,
for
example). I was just curious whether this new feature would eliminate the
autitors' concern. I trust you, but man, those auditors are tough.
Dennis Williams
DBA, 20% OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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I'm after the audits as a point of tracking my DDL/DCL as SYSDBA more than
for intrusion detection. As you've eluded to, the truly paranoid would
add
more layers of protection and monitoring via triggers, audit opts,
DBMS_JOB/cron jobs, etc. to provide increased accountability and tracking.
Since I only have time to be somewhat paranoid, I've only implemented a
few
of these. :)
And Oracle Support asked me why I would want to audit SYS. ;)
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI
USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:34 PM
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> Subject: RE: grant access to another user's objects?
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> Jesse - Does the DBA have access to the audit tables? If so, just edit
> yourself back out. I was reading a book about someone that tracks down
> hackers on the Internet. One of his security methods is to
> copy the system
> logs over to another system every few minutes. He checks to
> see if the log
> ever gets smaller, which would mean that a hacker erased
> his/her tracks.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA 20% OCP
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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