>Be warned: If you're american, you might get a culture shock regarding >unfriendly and pushy people.
does that mean that the people in Zurich ARE unfriendly and pushy? --- Stefan Jahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Andy > > I can only give you some information about the Duesseldorf area in > Germany > and the Zuerich area in Switzerland. > > D'dorf: > > As a combined sys admin / dba with 6 years experience, I guess you > can > expect about 60000 Euros per year. > If you want more, you have to be extraordinarily good. If you are > not, you > might have to accept less. I assume > you're talking about a permanent position here. > Cost of living is pretty high. You can expect to pay LOADS of taxes > (IRS is > really greedy here ;). Housing should > be about 800 Euros for a 70 square meter apartment (but not downtown, > that's > exponentially more expensive unless > you're really lucky). Food and clothing is also pretty expensive. My > wife > and I spend about 600 Euros per month on > food. If you need a car, you'll have to pay a lot for insurance and > tax > (really varies, depending on the size of the engine > and how likely it is to be stolen;). Public transportation is a good > alternative. > > Zuerich: > > As for Switzerland, multiply the housing and food cost by 2 and there > you > are ... easy. > Public transportation is perfect plus you pay less tax. You also can > expect > the salary > here to be about 30% higher then in Germany, so that makes up for it. > > Be warned: If you're american, you might get a culture shock > regarding > unfriendly and pushy people. > > I guess Amsterdam is comparable (just guessing). > > Regards, > Stefan > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Andrey Bronfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 12:13 > An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Betreff: off topic: anyone form Amsterdam, Holland / other major > european > > > Hi ! > Sorry for this off topic posting. > > I will probably be offered a "Solaris sys admin / Oracle DBA" > position in > Amsteram, the Netherlands. > Unfortunately , i have no idea of what order of magnitude salary > should i > get / request. > I have 6 years of experience in the field. > So i wanted to ask the list memebers ( who are from Amsterdam or > other major > European cities , which is compatible to Amsterdam in terms of costs > of > living / salaries) a couple of questions: > > what would be a reasonable salary for a relocating person of my > qualifications ? > > What is the living cost there , i.e. an appartment to rent , food , > leisure, > travel , taxes ,etc.. ? > > How does Amsterdam compares price-wise to other Dutch cities and to > other > European capitals ? > > Thanks a lot in advance to everybody who will respond either directly > to me > or to the list. > > Cheers. > > P.S : Please forgive me if this off topic question bothers you ;-) > > > > DBAndrey > > * 03-9254520 > * 058-548133 > * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Andrey Bronfin > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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