Business Objects is good although the learning curve is pretty big. Although it is like anything and you have to watch the SQL statements that are used. We had a client bring there production system to its knees with a few poorly designed reports.
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re:RE: Alternative to Crystal Reports >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:18:42 -0800 > >Chris, > > Until some fool gives the general user this tool as a general purpose >query >tool. Then all hell breaks out. > >Dick Goulet > >____________________Reply Separator____________________ >Author: "Bowes; Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 6/20/2002 1:33 PM > >I have yet to see something that I cannot do in Crystal Reports. However, >I >don't write the reports off of tables, I use stored procedures to query and >process the records and return cursors to the crystal report. That way all >the data is massaged and pre-formed and the report is but a "template". >When done this way, you can send in parameters to determine what to do with >the data before it gets to the report. I'll have the same query with >differing where clauses and use something like if i_date is not null then >use query one which has a date range find else use query2 which ignores >date. Or you can create a query of groups and summaries and send it to >Crystal and Crystal will look at each summarized record as if it was just >another record from the base. Using stored procedures, you can do unions, >summaries, calculated fields, dummy fields, literals, etc and crystal can >handle it no problem. It is quite robust when done this way. > >--Chris > > > > >____________________Reply Separator____________________ >Author: "Steve McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 6/20/2002 10:17 AM > >Several times in the past I have seen folks on this list refer people to a >reporting product to use as an alternative to Crystal reports. Apparently >I >didn't think I would need it, cause I usually save posts with information I >am likely to forget.(So Yeah, I do save a lot of posts) Well now Crystal >is >being touted here as a possible solution for a new client's reporting >requirements. We have been unable to convince Oracle Reports to perform in >the way we would like, so we need an alternative. The good thing is that >the new client is a large one, so my company will actually be able to >invest >in a nicer product. > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Steve McClure > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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Or you can create a query of groups and >summaries and send it to Crystal and Crystal will look at each summarized >record >as if it was just another record from the base. Using stored >procedures, >you can do unions, summaries, calculated fields, dummy fields, literals, >etc and >crystal can handle it no problem. It is quite robust when done this >way.</FONT></P> > ><P><FONT SIZE=2>--Chris</FONT> ></P> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > ><P><FONT SIZE=2>____________________Reply >Separator____________________</FONT> ><BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: "Steve McClure" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]></FONT> ><BR><FONT SIZE=2>Date: 6/20/2002 10:17 >AM</FONT> ></P> > ><P><FONT SIZE=2>Several times in the past I have seen folks on this list >refer >people to a</FONT> ><BR><FONT SIZE=2>reporting product to use as an alternative to Crystal >reports. 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