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> re: client-server support on database 9.x


Looks like database 9.0.1.x will probably die (without *any* EAS) a 
lot sooner 
than 8.1.7.

since there is no evidence at this time that database 9.2.x, or 
later, will 
ever support client-server, database 8.1.7 looks like the better 
choice for 
longevity reasons.

regards,
ep


additional background:

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Linked from search results for "190435.1"

Oracle Server (RDBMS) Releases Support Status Summary

Information here was last updated on 10-June-2002 

...

Oracle Server Releases Status Summary  

...

Release: 9.0.1.X 
Current Patch Set 9.0.1.3 
Next Patch Set : Late 2002 
Error Correction Support Ends ***Probably 30-June-2003**  
Error Correction Support Ends ***No EMS*** 

...

http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showdoc?db=NOT&id=148054.
1

...

Product Version(s): 8.1.7 (8i) 
Platform(s): Platform Version(s):  ALL Platforms ALL 

Desupport End Dates: Error Correction Support (ECS): 31-DEC-2003 
Extended Assistance Support (EAS): 31-DEC-2006 
Extended Maintenance Support (EMS): 31-DEC-2005 

...

EAS will be provided until 31-DEC-2006, if the customer has a 
current support 
contract in place. 

...

Exceptions and/or Miscellaneous Information: 

Extended Maintenance Support (EMS) will be offered on the following 
platforms 
ONLY until 31-DEC-2005: 

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Microsoft Windows 2000 
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New info : ~
Apparently I neglected to also ask how long database 9.0.1 will be 
supported?
~
Here is the only information I found, which is not definitive:
~
~
~(Enterprise database server)
~
~ | Desupport Information: 
~ | 
~ | The lifecycle policy for all Oracle Server releases, where
~ | lifecycle is defined as the length of support by development, 
~ | is 21 months for all non-terminal releases and 27 months for 
~ | all terminal releases. All desupport dates adhere to this 
~ | policy. These dates [***]may move out[***], however, based 
~ | on business need, product interdependencies, etc. 
~
~
Oracle database versions 8.1.7 and 9.0.1 have start dates of FEB-
2002.
~
Are you aware of any "official" statement indicating that there 
will be a 
database version (9.0.1, or its replacement?) that supports client-
server and 
"developer" 6i stuff through the 2006-2008 time frame?
~
Thanks for your patience,
Eric


24-JUN-02 15:16:05 GMT

Hi Eric,

UPDATE TO CUSTOMER:
====================

For latest information about database desupport kindly refer the 
Note#190435.1. Till now there is no "official" statement indicating 
replacement for database 9.0.x that supports client-server.

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24-JUN-02 15:16:24 GMT

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On 20 Jun 2002 at 18:43, Eric D. Pierce  wrote:


...

> > Would like to go to Oracle 9 on the database if possible. 
> 
> According to OWS, you can run Forms6i (etc.) against database 9.0.x *IN CLIENT 
> SERVER MODE*.

...

> > Apparently Forms 6 latest patch is certified against some Oracle 
> > 9s but not the most recent. True?
> 
> Yes, as stated above, according to OWS you can run client-server against 
> database 9.0.x
> 
> fyi, according to Metalink lifecycle (or whatever they call it now) the 
> lifecycle of database 9.0.1, which btw started almost the same day as database 
> 8.1.7, would extend from FEB-2002 for either 21 or 27 months.
> 
> So, the death of databases 9.0.1 and 8.1.7 would be somewhere around DEC-2003, 
> possibly as late as MAY-2004 if they are considered "terminal releases".
> 
> ---excerpt from metalink---
> 
> (Enterprise database server)
> 
> | Desupport Information: 
> | 
> | The lifecycle policy for all Oracle Server releases, where
> | lifecycle is defined as the length of support by development, 
> | is 21 months for all non-terminal releases and 27 months for 
> | all terminal releases. All desupport dates adhere to this policy. 
> | These dates [***]may move out[***], however, based on business
> |  need, product interdependencies, etc. 
> 
> 
> ---end---
> 
> Note that the above dates are well short of the announced death of Forms6i 
> (and presumably other "developer" 6i stuff) which was 2006 (2008 with 
> "extended assistance support", or whatever they call it now).
> 
> That obviously makes one wonder how one could continue using Forms 6i in 
> client-server mode until 2006 or 2008 unless some database version other than 
> 8.1.7 or 9.0.1 will have client-server support, or unless the desupport dates 
> of either DEC-2003 or MAY-2004 are "moved out".
> 
> Here is the latest word from OWS:
> 
>    | Q) How long will I be able to run "developer"
>    |   (forms/reports/etc) 6i products (or their 
>    |   replacement products) in client-server mode 
>    | against database 9.0.x, or database 9.x ?
>    |
>    | A) Developer 6i products supports Client-Server 
>    |   mode. Developer 6i is supported until 2006 and 
>    |   extended support is until 2008. Till 2008 all
>    |   developer 6i products which are certified against
>    |   database 9.0.x is supported.
>  
> 
> That's it! No *specific* mention of how long the database 9.0.1 will be 
> "supported"!
> 
> (stay tuned for the final exciting conclusion coming in the next episode of 
> our show.)
> 
> 
> note, just found on metalink:
> 
> | Upcoming Oracle Product Desupports
> | 
> | PLEASE NOTE: This file contains details for upcoming Oracle Product
> | desupports, with an end of Error Correction Support (ECS) date > (13) months
> | ONLY. ((13) months is the minimum notification period for customers, which
> | includes the required (12) months notification period plus (1) month of
> | Obsolescence processing.) NOTE: The information in this file is subject to
> | change without notice and is not considered a formal desupport announcement
> | until the required process and approval is received and a formal desupport
> | notice is generated. Customers may also view this file via MetaLink under
> | "Product Lifecycle" ==> "Certifications" ==> "1. View Certifications by
> | Product" ==> "Desupport Advisories and Notices" ==>
> |
> | "Upcoming Oracle Product Desupports" or by searching for Doc ID: 190435.1. 
> | 
> | Product & Product Version(s) Platform(s): *Oracle Server 9.2.0.1
> |  & Platform Version(s):   ALL Platforms
> |  End of ECS Date :  30-SEP-2005
> |  End of EAS Date :  30-SEP-2008
> |  End of EMS Date :  30-SEP-2007 
> | 
> | Migration Path Notes :  TBD     
> | 
> | *NOTE: Oracle Server includes Client, Enterprise Edition, Parallel Server,
> |  Personal Edition, RAC & Standard Edition Server.
> | 
> |----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | 
> | For further assistance with Obsolescence &/or this file, please contact
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Last modified: Wednesday, 19-Jun-2002 15:21:22 PDT. 
> 
> ---end---
> 
> 
> The below is from Document #148054.1
> 
> ...
> | 8.1.7 (8i) 
> |  Platform(s): Platform Version(s): ALL Platforms ALL 
> | 
> | Desupport End Dates: Error Correction Support (ECS): 31-DEC-2003 
> | Extended Assistance Support (EAS): 31-DEC-2006 
> | Extended Maintenance Support (EMS): 31-DEC-2005 
> 
> ...
> 
> ---

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