They aren't - unless it exceeds a non-trivial percentage (6%? 7%? more?  I
can't remember now...) of their income and is "required" (?).

This new requirement for OCP is just another in a long line of
propaganda/baloney from Oracle in its never-ending attempts to suck up every
buck it possibly can.  [Oracle likes $$$$$.  HR likes mindless checklist
items.  It is a match made in heaven.]  I thought that the "need practically
any two ILT classes, no matter how irrelevant" 9i OCM was going to be the
limit of extending the the greedy grab for OCP bucks - for 9i at least.
This isn't about certification anymore (as if it ever was), its about
revenue.

Since this "new requirement" (for the moment at least) doesn't apply to
upgrade from an 8i certification, does anyone know if there is (or soon will
be) a new constraint/surprise/ambush limiting that to 8i OCP obtained prior
to, oh say, June 15, 2002?  September 2002?

Don Granaman
[OraSaurus - with more disdain than ever for the evil vampire Larry's OCP
DBA tax]

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> I thought employees were not allowed to write things off as business
> expenses...
>
> Confusedly yours,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:13 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again
>
> Are you trying to promote it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 6:50 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I am seriously considering pursuing one, since it can
> be sold to hiring managers as a sign of professional
> competence.
>
> Look at it from a cost/benefit ratio standpoint. Will
> someone with this cerifification make $2000 more over
> her professional life than she would without?
>
> So it takes a round trip ticket and three days of
> vacation. Get the company to pay for it or write it
> off as a business expense.
>
> Good investment, easy money, instant credibility to
> many hiring managers.
>
> jack silvey
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 19 Jun 2002 at 4:38, Ron Rogers wrote:
> >
> > Date sent:      Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:38:18 -0800
> > To:             Multiple recipients of list
> > ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > It seems that our list has made mention in this
> > report from
> > > Searchdatabase.com. And Oracle is trying to
> > justify the $2000 expence.
> > > If I read this correct the $2000 is for 9i OCP.
> > > =======
> > > LEAD STORY
> > >
> > > ORACLE FUELS CERTIFICATION CONTROVERSY |
> > SearchDatabase
> > > Oracle has a new requirement for its potential
> > certified
> > > professionals, and the price tag is about $2,000.
> > Many DBAs aren't
> > > happy about the new policy but Oracle says the
> > class makes their
> > > certification more valuable than ever. Read the
> > details of the new
> > > mandate, and what DBAs and industry experts have
> > to say about it.
> > >
> > > For the full details, click:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.searchdatabase.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid13_gci833782,00.ht
> ml
> >
> > ...
> >
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