Dan:

  All I can say is WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  It's the same line I give.  If you don't like it, volunteer!

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
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Compuware Corporation
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Sent:   Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:24 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:        Presentations was RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet
again

The ratings are all dependent upon the audience's perception. There are
times when the entertainment value overwhelms the accuracy and/or content.
It seems that the beginning topics tend to be more style than substance,
where the advance topics can get overwhelmed in minute details. IMHO, I want
those details when I attend a session about Oracle Internal Myths, The Wait
Interface or Touch Count Algorithm. As a newbie, I would have been
frustrated with that level of detail in an intro Backup & Recovery talk.
Over time, I have learned that there are certain speaker's/company's
presentations that are not to be missed, while others I avoid.
Unfortunately, it took several years and some mistakes to discover the
error. I feel the same about training. As attendees, it is our
responsibility to fill out the comment cards with constructive and accurate
impressions. If there is a speaker/presentation that is on either end of the
spectrum, we should tell the conference organizers. Each speaker was a
newbie at one time or another and our feedback to the speaker and conference
organizers will make a strong impression as to whether or not the person
should be invited back. In lieu of specific comments, the organizers look at
attendance. Joe Schmoe's B&R talk (while extremely accurate but dry as day
old toast) had 40 attendees at the start and 4 at the end. Jane Doe's B&R
talk (very superficial and somewhat inaccurate, but highly entertaining) had
400 attendees who stayed to the end. Who will the conference invite next
year? If you want to make a real difference, volunteer to be on the paper
selection committees.

Daniel W. Fink
Sr. Oracle DBA
MICROMEDEX
303.486.6456
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