doctors have to take more than a multiple choice test to be certified. getting certified might be hard work.. but I had a developer who decided he wanted to be a DBA so he went out and got his certification. He studied for the tests, took them and passed. Give my choice I wouldn't have allowed him to work on my development databases, let alone production. He knew NOTHING about being a DBA.
--- ltiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Work experience is better than certification but ... > > Getting certified is hard work. Takes a lot of time and effort (not > to > mention money). So it must be worth something. If only for a little > bit. It > is definitely not worthless. > > Work experience plus certification is the best combination. > > Certification is no different from being a doctor. You need to pass > exams to > be a doctor too (you need internship to go as well, of course). > > As for naming famous Oracle authors, I don't think this is a valid > gauge of > your capacity as a DBA. I know some people well versed in Computer > Engineering concepts (from 'great' authors) but can't code. They > sound like > experts but can't deliver sh_t. > > ltiu > > On Wednesday 26 June 2002 15:23, you wrote: > > This threads getting to be a lengthy one, and I might as well add > my two > > cents to it. I too come from the same school of thought. That you > are OCP > > certified holds no water with me. OK. So you are OCP Certified.That > dont > > impress me much. > > > > One of my first questions, when I am asked to conduct an interview, > is ask > > them to name some of the Oracle Gurus they have read about, to name > some > > helpful Oracle sites, or some great white papers. The answers, > almost > > always, tend to reflect the level of expertise. Jonathan Lewis, > Steve > > Adams, Cary Millsap, Craig Shallahamer, Anjo Kolk, Tom Kyte, Kevin > Loney, > > Rama Velupuri, Racheal Carmicheal, .................. > > > > Sadly, my point of view differs from that of most recruiters. I > know of an > > OCP who, when told that the developers were running out of > temporary > > tablespace, put in a request with the SA to increase the disk space > for > > /tmp. I also know of a HR personnel who rejected my resume coz I > had no 8i > > experience. Sadly, my resume said 8.1.6, 8.1.7. > > > > Raj > > Not an OCP Certified DBA > > > > "Whatever little I know, I owe it to my ignorance". > > > > > > > > > > > > Julia Phu > > <julia_phu@rocke To: Multiple > recipients of > > list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tmail.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: the > ora > > certified masters cert, yet again [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > June 26, 2002 > > 05:22 PM > > Please respond > > to ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I can't help being quiet. > > > > I've no respect for the OCP. I saw MANY people bought > > the exams from many sources. These people memorize the > > questions and answers prior the test day. Voila, they > > pass the tests and still don't understand how to > > install and configure the database. > > > > I learned it on my job and am still learning. I took > > the 8i exam program and was EXTREMELY disappointed. I > > learned nothing. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: ltiu > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
