Psst! Kirti, I have the questions to the exam. Meet me in the alley behind the drugstore downtown and we can hash out a deal...
--Walt -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I will now return to my 8i OCP prep. Anyone wants to sell the student guides from 8i NF ILT ??? ;-)) - Kirti -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Mike, If you got the impression from anything I've posted here that I believe anyone who has gotten the OCP title is a liar and a cheat then I am very sorry as that is NOT the impression I meant to give. I think the OCP exam itself is worthless and not a measure of what a DBA knows. I think there are many DBAs out there who can add "OCP" to their resume who are wonderful DBAs (let's see, I read and learn from your posts, Joe Testa's, Kevin Loney has it as well.... and others) What I object to is the presumption that if you have those letters on your resume you are AUTOMATICALLY a good DBA. Rachel --- Hately Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been pretty quiet while you all said that the OCP program was > pretty > worthless because I can see your point. I don't believe that it > proves that > the holder is technically better than someone has isn't certified. > From my > point of view, though, I'm convinced that in a tight market it's > helped to > get me into interviews and that justifies the cost to me. > Now, however, you're straying towards calling OCP DBAs liars and > cheats and > implying that we're dangerous to have on site and I'm sorry but I'm > not > going to have that. > What merit is there in saying "doctors have malpractice insurance and > OCP > ... should have one too.". Where's the evidence for that kind of > witless > comment? > I originally took my OCP after amassing 10 years of DBA experience. I > don't > want to get into a pissing contest over this but it grates on me to > have it > constantly implied that OCP is just there to make up for lack of > ability. > I'm aware that many of you (Don for instance) have qualified their > statements by saying that applies to "a few" or "some" but the > implication > is still that the majority of OCPs are trying to make up for some > sort of > technical deficiency. > > If you don't want to spend the money or the time then that's fine by > me. I > certainly won't it necessary to criticise you for it. > > Regards, > Mike Hately > > No, really; I usually have a sense of humour. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: 27 June 2002 08:13 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > From my experience with a few DBAs that waved their OCP around like > it was a > Nobel prize, some probably should have malpractice insurance. Lots > of it. > > Don Granaman > [Certifiable OraSaurus - NOCP] > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
