First you must have a demonstrated need to have access to classified
material (that's US Gov't Classified not business classified).  Then you
need to submit the reams of paperwork through your security officer that
will initiate the SBI.  This is the stuff where you write down
everything you ever did in your life and who you did it with.  You also
include a list of everyone you know.  Then they go around interviewing
everyone and you to see if you really told the truth.  They get
extremely personal to borderline embarassing with the questions.  Then
the mysterious clearance blesser in D.C. muddles over all this and if
you are found worthy then you get it.  With today's security climate
this is not an easy process.

There are also drawbacks to the clearance.  It is a forced barrier in
relationships.  Hi Honey I'm home. .. No my day really sucked.  .. No,
Dear, I can't tell you why. ...  After a while conversations like that
tend to create tensions even though both parties understand the reasons
for the secrecy.  I'm glad not to have to deal with that in my job.

Rodd Holman

On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 13:52, Michael Cupp wrote:
    How would one begin the process of getting one?  Or does it have to be government 
sponsored?
    
    -----Original Message-----
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    It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5 to 2 years to get this 
clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it behooves you to keep 
it current.
    
    They used to estimate these clearences were worth
    an additional $10K a year for salary.   Im thinking
    at least $25K now.    Alot of  my friends that have
    these clearances , whether they be DBAs, programmers,
    Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many
    places around the world due to the fact these clearances
    are very hard to get.
    
    Also,  the companies will not foot the bill for this
    delay.  The government usually has to approve all hires
    where the individual is not cleared.  From what I have
    seen the government is in no mood to do this as of
    late.
    
    FWIW !
    
    Mike
    
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    Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM
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    I don't understand the large number of positions coming out that require 
    a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance.  How can all these positions 
    be filled unless these company/entities start footing the bill for 
    people getting the clearances?!?
    
    Johnson, Michael wrote:
    
    >That is not my understanding.
    >
    >FWIW.  Mike
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
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    >
    >
    >Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets can admit to doing 
    >so :) One can say you have been the subject of a Special Backgroud 
    >Investigation, and Extensive Background Investigation, a Full Field 
    >Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of 100 these investigations 
    >are done for just such access.
    >
    >Ian MacGregor
    >Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:24 AM
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    >
    >
    >I suspect that this position will be at Wright-Patterson Air Force 
    >base.
    >
    >OraStaff wrote:
    >  
    >
    >>Position: Oracle DBA with Top Secret SCI Clearance
    >>          (Please do not send your resume unless you have the required
    >>    
    >>
    
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