Kathy, I'm going to assume that what you're trying to do is create UTL_FILE files that have group r/w permissions. As others have pointed out, you're being thwarted by the perms of the oracle process.
Here's how I've overridden that in the past. Assuming your directory is /u01/utl_file/db01/, create a new group called util_file in unix. Now change the group and perms on the directory: chgrp util_file /u01/utl_file/db01/ chmod g+rxs /u01/utl_file/db01/ Now all files created in the /u01/utl_file/db01/ file directory will have a group of util_file with read permission. Just add the util_file group to users that need access. Read the chmod man page for details. Jared Kathy Duret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/2002 01:07 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler Ok, I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it. But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I get 644 permissions. My umask is 02. On another system - solaris everything ok. Both .profiles are the same. Sys admins no help. Any clues? Thanks, Kathy Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).