Re: What is the point to use "alter database rename file" command?

[Yechiel Adar]

The same point of buying a family car to go to work even if you can not do cross country races in it.   The fact that you can not do something does not invalidate the other cases where it is valid.   Yechiel Adar Mehish ----- Original Message ----- From: Jalil Zabourdine To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Re: What is the point to use "alter database rename file" command? Thanks to all who replied... I ve solved my problem yesterday but still... by shutdown database.My question was how to move datafiles which are created by default in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs directory and when they are in SYSTEM tablespace. On 24*7*356 database it is NOT POSSIBLE to move  datafiles (in SYSTEM tbs) on ONLINE database because we can not put SYSTEM tablespace offline!!!!but it is possible for other tablespace!!!  So what is the point of having  ALTER DATABASE RENAME FILE command if we can not rename datafiles which are reside in the system tablespace??? Regards, Jalil   Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you don't mind SHUTDOWN and then STARTUP NOMOUNT in order to run CREATE CONTROLFILE, then the methods are pretty much equivalent.  Often, though, uptime requirements don't permit that luxury...   If you are using RMAN with NOCATALOG, then CREATE CONTROLFILE can destroy some valuable information also... ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexandre Gorbatchev To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: What is the point to use "alter database rename file" command? Isn't alter-way at least easier? that's enough. and you can do it online. and you would not mess up with control files. and much faster and... nothing more I can think of right now...   Alexandre ----- Original Message ----- From: Jalil Zabourdine To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: What is the point to use "alter database rename file" command? Hi list, What is the point to use "alter database rename file" command to move datafile? as we will need to update controle file anyway. So why not do the following directly to move datafile:  - alter database backup contrlfile to trace and modify the location of datafile.  - startup nomount and run the script inorder to update the controlfile. It works fine... So what is the point of "alter database rename file" command? Thanks in advance. Regards, -Jalil Do You Yahoo!? New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup