Assuming that you can somehow find the patch number (which is 
the same as the directory name), this is the new patch 
download facility:


>ftp updates.oracle.com
>cd 1647241
>binary
>get p1647241_210_WINNT.zip

---log file---
230- 
230-           Welcome to the Oracle Patch Download FTP Server
230- 
230- Access
230- ------
230- Access to this system is limited to authorized users of Oracle
230- Metalink.  Unauthorized access to or use of this system is prohibited
230- and may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution.  Use of this
230- system may be monitored for the purpose of maintaining system
230- security, and system information may be accessed or disclosed under
230- limited circumstances.
230- 
230- All transmissions of Oracle software, documentation, source code,
230- technical data or technology must comply with Oracle's Export
230- Compliance Corporate Policy.  For more information, refer to Oracle's
230- Internal Export Control & Compliance Manual or contact your division's
230- Export Control Officer.
230- 
230- Usage
230- -----
230- To download a patch, you must know the patch number. At any time you
230- can "cd <patch number>" and then "ls" to find a listing of patches
230- with that number. Enter "quote site help" to get this welcome banner
230- and additional helpful instructions.
230-  
230- Caveats
230- -------
230- - You may not list files or directories from the root directory.
230- - You must select binary transfers for this service to work. 
230  
ftp> 
---> dir
PORT 192,168,0,2,13,85
200 PORT command OK.
---> LIST
150 Opening data connection for file listing.
total 1
226-Listing complete. Data connection has been closed.
226-It is the policy of this server to deny all
226-requests to list from the root directory.
226-Only diretories with names which match
226 bug numbers exist and there are too many to be listed.
ftp: 9 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 9000.00Kbytes/sec.
ftp> ---> quit
QUIT
221 Goodbye. Service closing connection.


---end log file---



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Looking for Forms 5 patches
To:                     O D T U G - D E V 2 K - L @ f a t c i t y . c 
o m

Go into Metalink and click on the "Patches" button on the 
left:


> Notice: All critical patches have been moved to this new advanced
> Patch Download screen. As of June 17, 2002, the old patch download
> area has been decommissioned. Patch Download Screen, Decommission
> Information 

---

http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showNO
T?p_id=199805.1

excerpt:


> As of June 17, 2002, this portion of the MetaLink patch download area
> has been decommissioned. 
> 
> 
> For your convenience, all critical patches have been moved from this
> area to the main patch download area. You can access the main patch
> download area by clicking on the "Patches" button in the MetaLink
> navigation menu. In the unlikely event that you are unable to retrieve
> a critical patch, please create a Metalink iTar, with details of the
> required patch, for Oracle Support to resolve. Do not use the MetaLink
> feedback button to request a patch, as this will only delay the
> resolution. 
> 
> Thank you!
> The MetaLink team.
> 
> 


---


> View the latest Applications Release 11i Packs 

> ( http://ap103aru.us.oracle.com/quicklinks/apps.html ), 

> the latest Oracle Server / Tools Patchsets 

> ( http://ap103aru.us.oracle.com/quicklinks/server.html ), 

> or enter your selection criteria below. 

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Patch Download
>
> To view a list of available patches, select a product and platform
> combination from the drop-down lists. 

> 
> 
> Patch Number:   

> Product Family:  select a product family
...
>Limit Search to:  select an entry
...
>Includes File:
...
> Order by:  Release date Patch Number  



> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>  Copyright (c) 1995, 2001 Oracle Corporation. All Rights Reserved. 
> Legal Notices and Terms of Use. 


Of course the profoundly sick b*stards that designed the 
convoluted select 
criteria list made it impossible to find something simple like 
a list of 
patches for "forms 5", you have to rummage around amongst 
various 
options/suboptions for "Developer", "Developer Suite", etc.

Another victim of Oracle's byzantine product naming/numbering 
scheme.

Note that a simple search for "forms 5 patch" returned a vast 
number of 
entries that do not appear to be relevant.

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!

Moving right along, I look in "Top Tech Docs".

"Internet Developer Tools" seems the closest approximation???

(of course forms 5 may, or may not, be used for "Internet", 
but nevermind.)

Ah yes, click "Oracle Forms".

Under "Patches", there is almost nothing useful!!!

AMAZING!

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!


Ah, but in "64630.1", there is a link to "74145.1" (Developer 
Version Number 
Matrix). hmmmmm... :

Forms 5.0.5 = Developer 2.0
Forms 5.0.6 = Developer 2.1

So, the latest appears to be for:
 Forms "5.0.6.23.1", "Patch 11" dated "27-jul-00 "


(of course the selection criteria for any of that results in 
"patch not 
found"!)

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!


-----

So, backtracking, why not try the link at the top of the 
"Patches" page?

(see further below for "Patch Bundles for Individual Products 
or Components ")

"latest Oracle Server / Tools Patchsets


( http://ap103aru.us.oracle.com/quicklinks/server.html )

So, under "Product Bundles", I click "Oracle Developer", 
select "Windows" and 
"2.1.0".

Result:

| Patch download
| You have selected the following patch: 
| 
| ID:528263 Patchset::1647241  README  

( 
http://ap103aru.oracle.com/ARULink/Readme/process_form?aru=528
263... )

   ---

   || Oracle Developer/2000  Release 2.1 - Patch Release 
   || for Windows 95 and  Windows NT 
   || Release Notes 
   || Release 2.1 For Windows 95 and Windows NT Patch 
   || July 27, 2000 
   || 
   || Under most circumstances, you DO NOT need to install any 
of these
   ||  patches. 
   || However, if you are instructed by Oracle Worldwide 
Support to install
   ||  any of these patches, please read through this README 
file before start
   ||  your installation. 
   ||   
   || If you have installed other products from the Production 
CD 
   || after applying the GUI Common Files or Tools Utilities 
patch 
   || from this CD,  then  you need to re-install them from 
this CD 
   || again. 
   || 
   || These Release Notes include the following information: 
   ||  - Contents of this CD 
   ||  - Installation Instructions 
   ||  - Information about this Patch Release 
   ||   
   || Contents of this CD 
   || At the root level of this CD you will see the following 
directories: 
   || 
   ||  \INSTALLR 
   ||  \FORWIN95 
   ||  \PATCHES 
   ||  \EXTRAS 
   || 
   || \INSTALLR contain operating system specific Oracle 
Installers (launched
   ||  by the SETUP.EXE file),  and associated files needed by 
the Installer. 
   || 
   || In this PATCH, the following components have changed 
from the previous
   ||  patch: 
   ||  --FORMS         5.0.6.23.1 
...

   ---

| RELEASE 2.1 :PATCH11 
| Product:Oracle Developer
| Platform:MS Windows NT/2000 Server
| Language:American English 
 
| Version:Developer 2.1.0
| Last updated:16-FEB-2001
| Size:145M (152796293 bytes) 


(20 minutes later, the download is still completing over a 
very high speed 
University connection, I'll report on the download later when 
it is done).

----------

Alternatively, 

under "Patch Bundles for Individual Products or Components ", 
click "Developer 
Forms"

(OOPS!!! For "Windows", there is only a "6i" option!!!)

haaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaa haa haa haaaa 
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa 
haaaa haa haa haaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaa haa haa
haaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaa haa haa haaaa 
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 
haaaaaaaaa haaaa haa haa haaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa 
haaaa haa haa


CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!


----------


>ftp updates.oracle.com

"deny all requests to list from root"

you have to know the patch number, then cd to that


CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!


----------

Oh well, I guess there is always the next "Alice Through the 
Looking Glass" 
option of logging a TAR and getting some clueless new OWS 
employee!!!

Or going to "Forum".

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL THE DECISION MAKERS AT ORACLE THAT 
METALINK SUCKS?!?!


regards,
ep







On 12 Jul 2002 at 10:25, [deleted] wrote:


> Tried to find them at
> ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com/dev_tools/patchsets/dev2k/Win95NT/2.1 but
> all subfolders were empty.  Any place else I could look? 

...

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