You wrote: From their point of view Research and Development is an expense (not an investment).
My daughter used to work as a technical writer for a company that tried to sell a tool to created web sites. She left them some months ago. I asked her the other day if that company is still open and she said she did not check lately but she heard that they fired all the R&D people. Yechiel Adar Mehish ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:08 PM > > The "model" for running a technology based company into the ground is to > promote the Director (or VP) of Sales and Marketing to CEO. This sort of > makes sense because it is sales and marketing that generates the revenue > and all of these companies are in business to make money. The Sales and > Marketing person knows how to sell. They could sell iceboxes to Eskimoes. > From their point of view Research and Development is an expense (not an > investment). So no new products are developed, sales falter and, in order > to keep profits up, the CEO lays off even more developers. Ultimately > you're trying to sell buggy whips to automobile drivers. > > When I worked at Boeing they countered this by insisting that all managers > have a BS as their undergraduate degree. It didn't matter if it was from > Holbokien Institute of Technology, that BS was the magic key into > management. Of course you needed more than just an undergraduate degree > but every manager did have some understanding of how the technology worked > and the necessity of R&D. > > Take a look at the top tiers of your company. If it consists of just MBAs > who have Finance, Sales and Marketing backgrounds and who have never > actually developed anything in the technology that they are managing then > the company will eventually go under. In most cases the collapse of the > dot-coms and tel-coms are perfect examples. They couldn't deliver the > technology. All sizzle and no steak. > > > > > DENNIS > WILLIAMS To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <DWILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > @LIFETOUCH.CO cc: > M> Subject: RE: RE: larry want to take over your > Sent by: root e-mai > > > 07/12/2002 > 01:04 PM > Please > respond to > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > Patrice - I especially agree with your last statement "don't believe there > is a real solution to this". Remember a technology vendor has 3 > constituents, all of whom think they are the most important: stockholders, > employees, customers. > I have noticed that previous slumps in technology sales have tended to > correlate with periods where there aren't compelling new products to be > purchased. We could all run our current products for years to come, but > then > that wouldn't produce any new sales would it? In the short term about all a > vendor can do to show its stockholders is cut employees in response to > falling revenues. Eventually new products will appear, but that takes much > longer and if the company goes out of business before then, it is rather > moot. > > Dennis Williams > DBA, 20% OCP > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:58 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I have mixed feelings about this - I think this is pervasive within the > high-tech industry, and my gut feeling is that it may help explain why tech > stocks are so low. > > Do you think they (the industry leaders) will get the message? > > I seriously doubt it. Right now the focus seems to be on cutting staff and > costs rather than improving products to build loyal customers and increase > revenues. It's been like this for as long as I can remember. But the > industry leaders are probably in a bind: Many high quality products > disappeared because a cheaper alternative came on the market. > > Part of the problem is that people think short term, if they see a > half-finished product at lower cost that markets itself as being "the > cheaper alternative" for an expensive solution, purchasers tend to pick the > cheaper option if they think they can live with it. In some cases if a > well-known company says "wait 6 months, we are working on this too and our > product will amaze you," customers actually decide to postpone projects > based on vaporware promises. > > Overall costs may actually be higher when cheaper alternatives are > selected, > but in many places no one is focused enough, wise enough or around long > enough to do long-term assessments. In many cases it's because everyone is > too busy to cross the t's and dot all the i's. > > It doesn't encourage vendors to build top-quality, long-lasting products. > In my opinion. > > I also don't believe there is a real solution to this, most people are > happy > with the status quo. > > My CDN$0.02. > > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Hannah, > > Friday is tomorrow, settle down everything will be all right. It's > just > his > Bill complex showing through, you know that MicroSoft mantra, "We will be > everything to everyone." I'm still waiting for that piece of Windows > software > that insures my coffee cup remains full. At least the Oracle based one I > developed warns me when it's half full and does not GPF in the process. :-) > > Dick Goulet > > ____________________Reply Separator____________________ > Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 7/11/2002 9:18 AM > > THAT DOES IT. I am starting training on DB2 right away (Yeah - I can > actually > AFFORD to.... no $2000 requirements!!). I want a DB that KNOWS its a DB > and > not > an all-purpose quagmire of inter-related but not really related junk just > because Larry has a Bill complex! > > Oracle and CHEAP cannot be used in the same sentence! Must have been a > misquote...surpised they dont need a 5000 named user license! > > > Argh...... mental meltdown in process. One... two.... deep breath.... Is > it > Friday yet? > > Hannah > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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