I would add to this ......

In a free market system nobody should 
look at the negative side when people make
money off of their hard work or investments.
This is the way it is set up.  

Why not say  "damn, how did he do
it and where do I get in line to get
some of that action ?"

I always find it interesting the envy and/or
disgust that some folks have toward people
who make alot of money. 

Think of all the middle class people
Larry Ellison and crew put to work who
bought homes and cars to drive our economy.

I didnt care for any of Larry and Scotts 
bitchin and moanin about Microsoft and
Bill Gates, but I say to Larry ..  "More power
to you to make more money, keep gettin richer 
and help build our economy.  Keep on truckin !"

FWIW.

Mike
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>> Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
>> (Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

As the story was related to me, Ellison has been living off of loans (from
banks, not Oracle) for the past couple decades.  His alleged reasoning was
that his stocks would appreciate far faster than the interest of the loans,
thus making it more economical to borrow than to sell.  Obviously, with such
a plan, you have to pay off sometime, and in 2000 one (or more) of his
lenders called in his loans for payment.  Again, this is just hearsay, but
that's what I've heard...

...so, in essence, he sold stock because he had (large unexpected) debts to
pay.  The timing of the stock sale wasn't his, it was some banker's...

>> Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
>> wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed
and
>> selfishness that they are mired in.

Oh, you do yourself far too much justice!  My own objection was your
prolonged and uninformed vitriol lacking anything more than a politician's
media release for substantiation.  Go measure some cache-hit ratios,
please...

>> Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in
a
>> way that is transparent to investors?

No idea.  Not of interest...

>> I guess a lot of alleged "facts" will come out after the august deadline
>> that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
>> validity of their accounting.

Sure.  Whatever.  Whaddya say we get back to work and talk techie stuff and
quit wasting time on this fluff?  <signing off on thread>

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