Doug, Kevin and others --

Sorry about getting so many of the returned messages.  These "locks" occur when our 
primary mail server is dealing with spam or viruses on one of our mailing lists.  It 
temporarily shunts mail to a non-mailing-list-aware server so that mail will continue 
to work, but that server doesn't know anything about mailing lists, so list traffic 
stops.  The primary mail server attacks the spam and/or virus and tries to clean 
things up so it can restore normal traffic.  The fact that you got so many is by pure 
chance.  The times that you would have gotten the lock message in the past 12 hours 
are:

  Thu Jul 18 08:37 - 08:42  (00:00)
  Thu Jul 18 06:10 - 06:17  (00:00)
  Thu Jul 18 03:11 - 03:17  (00:00)
  Thu Jul 18 02:08 - 02:12  (00:00)
  Wed Jul 17 22:12 - 22:32  (00:00)
  Wed Jul 17 21:12 - 21:17  (00:00)

Depending on how many messages you sent to a list in those timeframes, and how long 
the locked timeframe was, you would have gotten more bounces.  I see a couple of those 
timeframes were over 10 minutes.  Normally the virus/spam filters work to clear the 
problem and usually finish within five minutes.  As you can imagine, we've been hit 
quite hard in the past few days with viruses, and cleaning them out takes a bit of 
time.

I'll see what I can do to minimize the occurance of this situation.

thanks,
bruce

----- Original Message ----- 
To: "kkennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 09:47


Well, I've gotten 7 so far today!!

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Author: "kkennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       7/18/2002 9:42 AM

Hi Dick,
Yeah, I got one like this earlier today.  Not the same one you forwarded to the
list.
Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hey,  Is anyone else getting these messages from FatCity?

Dick Goulet

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Author: Mailer Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       7/18/2002 6:20 AM

The destination address you specified for your message could not be
reached because of a locking problem.  Your message is being returned to
you so that you can resend it if you desire.  The locking problem should
be resolved within a few minutes.  Sorry for the inconvenience.


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