My favorite is when they claim to run an n Terabyte database, and I ask them how they back it up... "uh we don't back it up yet..."
Bzzzzzzzzzzzt!! Thank you for playing, bye bye! P.s. I liked your rant... -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you have a script that GETS rid of BUGS!?! COOL!!! -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L uh...raid. Oh yes, I have a script for that. --- Alan Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So no one responded with, "We use raid xx. We don't > have to worry about backup/recovery." ;^) > > -- > > Alan Davey > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 212-604-0200 x106 > > > On 7/22/02, mkb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Ok, I need to vent a little. > > > >Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews > over > >the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone > with > >about 2-3 years experience. > > > >I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I > >think that I ask particularly tough questions. The questions that I > >ask potential candidates are soley based on what is on the resume. > >So I figure if someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on > their > >resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a > fairly > >intelligent conversation about these topics. No > such > >luck! > > > >What really frustrated me, and what I really want > to > >get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked > to, > >had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget > about > >recovery. I asked each and every candidate who > >claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a > high > >level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't > care > >about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The > answers > >I got were completely off base, baffling and > >frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5 > >years experience!!! > > > >'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure > how > >these are done...' (But it says on your resume > you've > >done this???) > > > >'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the > >datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's > not > >how a hot backup is done, right?) > > > >'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup > >starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? > What?) > > > >'During this time, everything is written to the > redo > >logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been > >reading one of those books, haven't you?) > > > >I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in > >backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of > them > >got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as > to > >what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't > >know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. > I > >asked every candidate how they would do an online > >recover of a datafile while the database was still > in > >use. No ideas. Not even close. > > > >I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of > this > >list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as knowledgeable as you > >guys? Perhaps I'm asking too much? > > > >Rant over. Thanks for listening. > > > >mkb > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: mkb > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 > FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California -- Public Internet > access / Mailing > >Lists > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and > >in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). 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