John,
I have quoted OTN(Oracle Tech Net). That's the same.
If you take a further look down at "few other things", you'll see the text I
quoted. Two conditions together limit the usage only for development and
prototyping  and only for period of 30 days.
Btw, the download site of www.oracle.com is technet.oracle.com
(otn.oracle.com).

Alexandre
----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 11:38 PM


> When you said OTN, I thought you meant Oracle Technet.
>
> If you look at the this site:
>
> http://technet.oracle.com/software/htdocs/devlic.html?/software/products/
> oracle9i/htdocs/winsoft.html
>
> You will find the licence asks you to agree you're not someone the US
> doesn't like  and then to accept the Technet licence agreement. Which
> includes the following:
>
> License Rights
> We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use the
> programs only for purposes of developing and prototyping your
> applications, and not for any other purpose.  If you use the
> applications you develop under this license for any internal data
> processing or for any commercial or production purposes, or you want to
> use the programs for any purpose other than as permitted under this
> agreement, you must contact us, or an Oracle reseller, to obtain the
> appropriate license.  We may audit your use of the programs.  Program
> documentation is either shipped with the programs, or documentation may
> accessed online at http://otn.oracle.com/docs.
>
> Ownership and Restrictions
> We retain all ownership and intellectual property rights in the
> programs. The programs may be installed on one computer only, and used
> by one person in the operating environment identified by us.  You may
> make one copy of the programs for backup purposes.
>
> You may not:
> �use the programs for your own internal data processing or for any
> commercial or production purposes, or use the programs for any purpose
> except the development and prototyping of your applications;
> �use the applications you develop with the programs for any internal
> data processing or commercial or production purposes without securing an
> appropriate license from us;
> �remove or modify any program markings or any notice of our proprietary
> rights;
> �make the programs available in any manner to any third party;
> �use the programs to provide third party training;
> �assign this agreement or give or transfer the programs or an interest
> in them to another individual or entity;
> �cause or permit reverse engineering or decompilation of the programs;
> �disclose results of any program benchmark tests without our prior
> consent; or,
> �use any Oracle name, trademark or logo.
>
> And a few other things...
>
> So basically you can use it for development, free of charge, as long as
> you don't put applications you develop into production use at your site
> or anyone elses.
>
> I think the terms you were quoting refer to Trial licences from
> www.oracle.com's shop, not OTN.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Thomas
>
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexandre
> Gorbatchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >Here is the quotes:
> >.....
> >
> >Trial Programs Included With Orders
> >We may include additional programs with an order which may be used for
trial
> >purposes only.  You will have 30 days from the delivery date to evaluate
> >these programs.  Any use of these programs after the 30 day trial period
> >requires you to obtain the applicable license.  Programs licensed for
trial
> >purposes are provided "as is" and we do not provide technical support or
any
> >warranties for these programs.
> >
> >.....
> >
> >Doesn't that mean that any use (limited to development and prototyping in
> >other paragraph above this one) is for 30 days only? Or this limitation
is
> >only for "additional programs?" What does "additional programs" mean?
> >
> >Alexandre
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:04 PM
> >
> >
> >> Unless I misread something, or the licence has changed, a Technet
> >> download licence is an indefinite development licence for use on one
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> It is only when your app goes into production that you must buy a full
> >> licence.
> >>
> >> Also check out Technet Tracks. For $199 Oracle send you a year's worth
> >> of releases of the DB, 9iAS and the full development suite (Forms,
> >> Designer etc) and  give you limited Metalink access for a year. Again
> >> under the Technet development licence.
> >>
> >> See https://www.oracle.com/jsp/otntt/index.jsp
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexandre
> >> Gorbatchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >> >Ken,
> >> >I guess you are still supposed to buy it to continue using it at home
> >after
> >> >30 days trial. Larry trusts you. :)
> >> >
> >> >Alexandre
> >> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >> >  From: KENNETH JANUSZ
> >> >  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >> >  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:38 PM
> >> >  Subject: Re: Oracle Trial License
> >> >
> >> >  Mark:
> >> >
> >> >  That's what I thought, but I wanted to confirm it. I will be using
this
> >> >  software on my own PC for educational purposes only.
> >> >
> >> >  Thanks,
> >> >  Ken
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>    ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>    From: Mark Leith
> >> >>    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >> >>    Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:18 AM
> >> >>    Subject: RE: Oracle Trial License
> >> >
> >> >>    It keeps on chugging along.. You are "obliged" to pay the license
> >> >>    fee after that AFAIK..
> >> >
> >> >>>      -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>      From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >> >>>      KENNETH JANUSZ
> >> >>>      Sent: 06 August 2002 16:33
> >> >>>      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >> >>>      Subject: Oracle Trial License
> >> >
> >> >>>      I want to purchase 9.2i for XP Prof. via OTN. Oracle states
that
> >> >>>      the trial license is for 30 days. What happens at the 30 day
> >> >>>      mark? Does the DB lock up or keep on going? What happens,
> >> >>>      if anything?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>      Thanks,
> >> >>>      Ken Janusz
> >>
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