Per Jeremiah Wilton's helpful web page:

http://www.speakeasy.org/~jwilton/oracle/hot-backup.html

I think I may have stumbled into another reason for this
misconception.  Some platforms "hide" the fact that changes are being
made.  I have been using tar to warm backup active db files for
awhile under Digital/Compaq/HP Unix directly to tape media.  The ADVFS
must have been helping me out, perhaps not checking the the ctime on
files; no restore problems, no error messages. As soon as I tried this 
on Solaris I got:

/opt/gnu/bin/gtar: db09/oradata/nemisys/ne_data01.dbf: file changed as we read it
/opt/gnu/bin/gtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
/opt/gnu/bin/gtar: CHILDSTATUS 3941 2 child process exited abnormally

Doc ID: 33167.1 says to make a copy of the file and back the copy up.
I have yet to test it, but the gtar flag --ignore-failed-read may get
around this.  I never had to with DEC providing this false "buffered" 
feeling.
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