Thanks a lot to all who replied !
The upgrade issue is postponed by the customer ;-(
Apparently they'll need to upgrade the O/S as well (they currently use
Digital 4.0d , while the earliest version Oracle8i OPS is certified on is
4.0e, and 9i RAC is supported on 5.*).
So , now the customer should decide whether or not they'd go for it.
BTW , support is not an issue for them. The customer is the largest (and
arguably the only) wireline telephone company in Israel and is the largest
customer of Oracle Israel. Their support contract includes (among the rest)
FREE upgrades , performed by Oracle consultants on site.



DBAndrey

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Andrey,

Playing Devil's advocate, the only valid reason I can think of
is due to support issues.

An unsupported version of Oracle is something of problem should
you find new bugs.  The platform it's on will no doubt leave it's support
window at sometime in the future.

If the customers are happy, how will they benefit from partitioning?

I know there is an incredible array of new features available in 9i RAC
that will enhance performance,  but if the customers are happy they 
won't care.

There may be other issues they have concerns about, such as
security.  Maybe they would like encryption built into the database?
Or perhaps the Virtual Private Database is of interest to them?

Why not check the new features list, and see if there are items
there that would be beneficial the customer from a business 
perspective.

As a fellow DBA, I can understand your point of view.  But 
the $$ needs to be justified.

Jared










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Dear gurus !
I know it's a "beaten to death horse", but...
I want to convince a customer to upgrade their OPS 7.3.4 DB to an Oracle
8.1.7 OPS or even (in a best case for me) to Oracle9i RAC (don't even know
whether or not one exists and is supported for Digital UNIX on EMC 
Symmetrix
storage).
I am sure this has been discussed 1000s of times here , but ... i need the
arguments to convince them.
I can't tell them "upgrade because 8.1.7 delivers better performance ,
availability etc...and 7.3.4 is outdated" , they simply won't buy it. 
They run that OPS 7.3.4 DB for several years now and are quite happy with
it. 
I need to explain in details why they should invest in the upgrade.
Now , the only real reason i can think of is partitioning . They will
definetly benefit from it.
I need more reasons.
Thanks a lot in advance.


DBAndrey

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