you are being kind. I was there, and was amazed that Gaja was as calm as he was before he walked out.
I think we scared the next speaker (also on this list) with the venting we ALL did. I did try to correct something the speaker said by asking a question with the correct answer in the question. he insisted he was right.... at which point I left. --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll add to John's comments. It took John, Kirti & myself to keep > Gaja calm > during the presentation. Once we all walked out, Gaja went outside > and > vented. Their solution is unusual as they believe that performance > can > optimized by adding hardware to the solution. > > Thank You > > Stephen P. Karniotis > Product Architect > Compuware Corporation > Direct: (248) 865-4350 > Mobile: (248) 408-2918 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.compuware.com > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:24 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Senware AutoDBA > > FWIW, someone from Senware presented a paper at IOUG 2002 titled > 'Performance management from the ground up' (or somthing like that) > which > was a load of &*$% to say the least. Most of the audience (many on > this > list) walked out in disgust after the first 10 minutes.... (Does > someone > remember the 'green peas' story?) If their product is even twice as > good as > their rep, it would not be worth considering. > > I am not blaming their desperate tactics however. Anything to sell a > product > in this economy :( Just came off a marketing call on the office > phone for > services I don't need! > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:04 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re: Senware AutoDBA > > > > > > Interesting web site. > > > > They claim to eliminate chained rows by rebuilding the tables. > > I'd like to see how they intend to do that. > > > > They also claim that their product can detect corrupt indexes > > and rebuild them. How hard can it be to detect ORA-1578? > > This kind of thing is fairly rare, and hardly seems worth the > > resources to run DBMS_REPAIR or dbv to check for. > > > > Their MO is hardly new. IBM has had a team in place for years > > designed to make an end run around the purchasing mgr/DBA/whoever > > when their product wasn't selected. They go to upper mgt to > > try and convince them of the foolish mistake the product > > evaluators made. > > > > Not surprising that others follow their lead. > > > > Jared > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: John Kanagaraj > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee > only. It > contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the > named > addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or > disclose > it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us > immediately > and then destroy it. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Karniotis, Stephen > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
