Ed,

    The only way your going to do this is through Oracle Resource Manager. 
You'll need an 8.1.x Enterprise database.  Then you can setup your resource
plans and groups to manage who gets how much CPU at a time.  Any of the
operating level tools out there cannot get down to the level of granularity your
asking for since all of the activity happens within Oracle.  All those tools can
do is control the amount of CPU that Oracle gets which has a global effect that
hampers all users of the database.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Ed Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       8/28/2002 5:13 AM

Raj,
    Thanks for your input.
>From what I understand with profiles, 
the session will be terminated once a 
threshold is reached.
    In this particular case, I cannot 
terminate the session. I need to be able
to control the CPU usage of a session, without
ending it. 
     If this cannot be done within Oracle, then
maybe it can be accomplished through the OS.

        thanks.
                        ed


                 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:48 PM
  Subject: RE: controlling CPU usage through Oracle


  You could use profiles to control CPU usage as well, more info is in manuals.
   
  Raj
  ______________________________________________________
  Rajendra Jamadagni              MIS, ESPN Inc.

  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com

  Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. 

  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art!

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ed Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:18 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject: controlling CPU usage through Oracle


    Hi,
        I'm looking for a way to control CPU usage of
    particular queries on a database.
        After exploring, and implementing ways of optimizing the code,
    these queries can run anywhere from 45 seconds
    to 2 minutes.  
        This database is 1 of 5 on this box. So, although it's important
    to build effective queries, it's also important in this 
    environment that these queries do not impact the other
    4 databases. 
        What I want to do is place a limit on CPU usage
    without terminating the query. I've looked at profiles
    with the "cpu_per_call" and "cpu_per_session" settings.
    I have never used profiles, but from what I understand, 
    these will kill the session once they reach a threshold.
        I'm also looking at database resource management.
    This may be more appropriate for this situation.
        Has anyone used this, and if so what are you
    experiences ? Would you recommend it ?
        Would the only way to control CPU usage on this
    box, be through the operating system ?

    I welcome any suggestions. I appreciate your time.

    The environment is Oracle 8.1.7.2, AIX 4.3.3.


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Raj,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for your 
input.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From what I understand with profiles, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the session will be terminated</FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2> once a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>threshold is reached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In this particular case, I 
cannot </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>terminate the session. I need to be 
able</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to control the CPU usage of a session, 
without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ending it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If this cannot be done 
within Oracle, then</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>maybe it can be accomplished through the 
OS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
ed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Jamadagni, Rajendra</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:48 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: controlling CPU usage 
  through Oracle</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=977503919-27082002><FONT color=#0000ff face="Courier New" 
  size=2>You could use profiles to control CPU usage as well, more info is in 
  manuals.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=977503919-27082002><FONT color=#0000ff face="Courier New" 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=977503919-27082002><FONT color=#0000ff face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Raj</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=977503919-27082002></SPAN><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>______________________________________________________</FONT></DIV>
  <P align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Rajendra 
  Jamadagni&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MIS, ESPN Inc.</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN 
  dot com</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Any opinion expressed here is 
  personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. </FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>QOTD: Any clod can have facts, 
  but having an</FONT> <FONT face="Courier New" size=2>opinion is an</FONT> 
  <FONT face="Courier New" size=2>art!</FONT></P>
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    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ed Lewis 
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:18 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
    controlling CPU usage through Oracle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm looking for a way to 
    control CPU usage of</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>particular queries on a database.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After exploring, and 
    implementing ways of optimizing the code,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>these queries can run anywhere from 45 
    seconds</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to 2 minutes.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This database is 1 of 5 on 
    this box. So, although it's important</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to build effective queries, it's also important

    in this </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>environment that these queries do not impact 
    the other</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4 databases. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What I want to do is place a

    limit on CPU usage</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>without terminating the query. I've looked at 
    profiles</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with the "cpu_per_call" and "cpu_per_session" 
    settings.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have never used profiles, but from what I 
    understand, </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>these will kill the session once they reach a 
    threshold.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm also looking at database

    resource management.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This may be more appropriate for this 
    situation.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Has anyone used this, and if

    so what are you</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>experiences ? Would you recommend it 
    ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Would the only way to 
    control CPU usage on this</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>box, be through the operating system 
    ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I welcome any suggestions. I appreciate your 
    time.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The environment is Oracle 8.1.7.2, AIX 
    4.3.3.</FONT></DIV>
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