they got rid of it, I think they brought it back for a while, then got
rid of it again... always confused the heck out of me.. which is why I
script and reuse create database stuff.

You people think I KNOW this stuff? Ha! I just have a REALLY good
collection of scripts <G>


--- Ron Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> FYI-
> 
> FWIR, it is no longer required to create a second rollback segment in
> SYSTEM at database creation.
> This requirement was removed at version 8 (or possibly even 7.3.4).
> 
> Ron Thomas
> Hypercom, Inc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by
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> 
> hm, it might be that I was thinking of the "second" rollback segment
> you had to create in the system tablespace before you could create
> any
> other tablespaces....
> 
> remove that "might", that sounds more along the lines of what I was
> thinking.
> 
> sorry for the confusion. I bow to the "redo/undo/rollback" expert
> 
> 
> --- "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Before taking the system rbs offline, contact tech support. I
> recall
> > (perhaps incorrectly...I don't remember whether or not I have
> tested
> > this)
> > that the system rbs is used by the kernel for normal operations and
> > by other
> > transactions if the other rbs are too full. The system rbs should
> > never be
> > specifically allocated to a transaction by a user.
> >
> > Always create additional rollback segments in a separate
> tablespace.
> > If you
> > fill up the rbs tablespace, the transaction fails. If you fill up
> the
> > system
> > tablespace, the database fails.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:23 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > create a rollback tablespace, create new rollback segments IN the
> > rollback tablespace and take the rollback segment named "SYSTEM"
> > offline. Do NOT use it.
> >
> > Having an active rollback segment in your system tablespace is like
> > allowing users to create objects there. Especially listen to
> Stephane
> > and READ the manuals. You should not be increasing the allowable
> size
> > of that segment, it should be tiny and unused.
> >
> >
> > --- Jonny Delmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Mark,
> > > Thanks, your command doesn't help. To answer your question,
> > Database
> > > was setup'd by previous DBA. Still i've never seen this type of
> > > segment...
> > > SQL> alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);
> > > alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024)
> > >                           *
> > > ERROR at line 1:
> > > ORA-02244: invalid ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT option
> > >
> > > Jonny
> > >   Mark Leith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you mind if I ask
> > why?
> > > Do you have any other rollback segments in place
> > > other than the SYSTEM one?
> > >
> > > In answer to your question though, look at the error message..
> You
> > > missed
> > > out the word "segment".
> > >
> > > alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: 28 August 2002 10:53
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> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Gurus,
> > > Could you please help me out with this - I want to increase the
> > > maxextents
> > > of below segment.
> > > TIA,
> > > SQL> select OWNER,SEGMENT_NAME,SEGMENT_TYPE,EXTENTS,MAX_EXTENTS
> > > 2 from dba_segments
> > > 3 where ((max_extents-extents)/max_extents)*100 <40 and
> max_extents
> > > != 0
> > > 4 /
> > > OWNER SEGMENT_NAME SEGMENT_TYPE EXTENTS MAX_EXTENTS
> > > ------ --------------- ------------------ ---------- -----------
> > > SYS SYSTEM ROLLBACK 505 505
> > > SQL> connect sys
> > > Enter password:
> > > Connected.
> > > SQL> alter ROLLBACK sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);
> > > alter ROLLBACK sys.system storage (maxextents 1024)
> > > *
> > > ERROR at line 1:
> > > ORA-01902: SEGMENT keyword expected
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Jonny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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